Avic Versicolor/Peru Purple/ Hybrid Project

[Nicole]

I hope you fail.

 

[arachnidsrulz12]

don't forget that we human have hybrid too

like

white marry black
black marry white
white marry asain
asian marry white
and more than they have kids lol

 

[CAK]

Should have remained a locked thread.... No Christmas Bonus for that person!

 

[Anastasia]

don't forget that we human have hybrid too

like

white marry black
black marry white
white marry asain
asian marry white
and more than they have kids lol

yes and I dont see a problem wit it at all, also we dont sell our kids, and dont claim them as purebreds ;P

 

[Falk]

Well, as someone who keeps T's just because I enjoy watching them, I have to ask......what is the big deal about the OP doing this? It's like keeping purebred dogs and purebred cats. Who cares if any species is "pure". People use to (and still do) complain about blacks and whites marrying and having children or Christians and Jews and "mixed breed" kids. So he breeds them and gets pretty tarantulas? I would enjoy them just the same. Why does everything have to be "pure"? I am asking for a very logical explanation as to why this matters. The above poster stated "thousands of years to develop"......You are saying two different types of species of tarantulas never bred in nature??

OMG:wall::wall::wall:

 

[Singapore_Blue1]

Let me first say thank you to whoever unlocked this thread...I feel that this project no matter how contriversal it is that I should be able to post my findings here. Honestly when I saw that it was locked I felt like I was being singled out just because of the sensitive nature of this topic. I am getting ready to film the second breeding attempt. Again thank you to the Moderators..:worship::worship:

 

[arachnidsrulz12]

yes and I dont see a problem wit it at all, also we dont sell our kids, and dont claim them as purebreds ;P

u might not know the outside world or in nature the T become hybrid or not

Some different species at the out might mate

thats why we have Avic avic or Avic versi. and more Avic
lol

 

[Falk]

Well, as someone who keeps T's just because I enjoy watching them, I have to ask......what is the big deal about the OP doing this? It's like keeping purebred dogs and purebred cats. Who cares if any species is "pure". People use to (and still do) complain about blacks and whites marrying and having children or Christians and Jews and "mixed breed" kids. So he breeds them and gets pretty tarantulas? I would enjoy them just the same. Why does everything have to be "pure"? I am asking for a very logical explanation as to why this matters. The above poster stated "thousands of years to develop"......You are saying two different types of species of tarantulas never bred in nature??

Dogs are all the same species so dont compare them to tarantulas who are totaly different. And no they dont breed in nature.

Many species are messed up enough as it is and what do you think will happend when these hybrids get sacs etc. Thou many hybrids cant get fertile sacks, thanks god for that.

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don't forget that we human have hybrid too

like

white marry black
black marry white
white marry asain
asian marry white
and more than they have kids lol

Yes but we are still are the same species, just different races:wall:

 

[kylestl]

Let me first say thank you to whoever unlocked this thread...I feel that this project no matter how contriversal it is that I should be able to post my findings here. Honestly when I saw that it was locked I felt like I was being singled out just because of the sensitive nature of this topic. I am getting ready to film the second breeding attempt. Again thank you to the Moderators..:worship::worship:

You truly are an asset to this hobby. With your findings there is no telling what we will be able to find out. Oh and no you weren't singled out, this stuff happens to everyone of the idiots who starts hybridizing threads because no matter how many times you tell people they are still to hard headed to understand, you know?

 

[Singapore_Blue1]

Dogs are all the same species so dont compare them to tarantulas who are totaly different. And no they dont breed in nature.

Many species are messed up enough as it is and what do you think will happend when these hybrids get sacs etc. Thou many hybrids cant get fertile sacks, thanks god for that.

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Yes but we are still are the same species, just different races:wall:

Oh how do you know this....Personal experience? I highly doubt that. Reading about it??? Or how about just pain conjecture.... Sometimes science misses things buddy...

 

[CombiChrist]

don't forget that we human have hybrid too

like

white marry black
black marry white
white marry asain
asian marry white
and more than they have kids lol

Yes, but at least they all belong to the same species, Homo sapiens. The hybrid is just a racial thing. So not comparing to this topic.

But is it correct that some Brachypelma hybrids have been found fertile ? Then who are we to decide it's unnatural ? Nature usually shows an "unnatural mating attempt" by the infertility of the offspring...
So fertile offspring should not be considered unnatural without a further thought...

 

[Singapore_Blue1]

You truly are an asset to this hobby. With your findings there is no telling what we will be able to find out. Oh and no you weren't singled out, this stuff happens to everyone of the idiots who starts hybridizing threads because no matter how many times you tell people they are still to hard headed to understand, you know?

Thank you for your kind words... I just want everyone here to know that my intentions are good and I am going to put the time and effort into this project that it deserves. I am very excited to share what I find. By the way when both spiders were bred yesterday they went at it right away with no hesitation. They were actually on my lap during the breeding.

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Yes, but at least they all belong to the same species, Homo sapiens. The hybrid is just a racial thing. So not comparing to this topic.

But is it correct that some Brachypelma hybrids have been found fertile ? Then who are we to decide it's unnatural ? Nature usually shows an "unnatural mating attempt" by the infertility of the offspring...
So fertile offspring should not be considered unnatural without a further thought...

I totally agree with the above statement...Well said..:worship:

 

[kylestl]

Thank you for your kind words... I just want everyone here to know that my intentions are good and I am going to put the time and effort into this project that it deserves. I am very excited to share what I find. By the way when both spiders were bred yesterday they went at it right away with no hesitation. They were actually on my lap during the breeding.

You don't know sarcasm when you see it......Nobody who is hybridizing has good intentions it is stupid and irresponsible thing to do. You have lost so much respect on this forum that there are quite a few who won't even sell you tarantulas. Because unlike yourself money isn't the main reason they are into tarantulas and they would rather miss out on the money then sell to some idiot who will just produce a bunch of hybrids.

 

[Singapore_Blue1]

You don't know sarcasm when you see it......Nobody who is hybridizing has good intentions it is stupid and irresponsible thing to do. You have lost so much respect on this forum that there are quite a few who won't even sell you tarantulas. Because unlike yourself money isn't the main reason they are into tarantulas and they would rather miss out on the money then sell to some idiot who will just produce a bunch of hybrids.

Well first of all money is not the reason I am into this...If it was I wouldn't be waisting my time with this project at all..I would be breeding P.metallica. M. balfouri, P. smithi all the really expensive T's and not even be messing with this. Second if your going to be sarcastic at least give some hints like this Nothing you said sounded sarcastic. Also your input is really important to me since you just joined the boards this year...

 

[kylestl]

Well first of all money is not the reason I am into this...If it was I wouldn't be waisting my time with this project at all..I would be breeding P.metallica. M. balfouri, P. smithi all the really expensive T's and not even be messing with this. Second if your going to be sarcastic at least give some hints like this Nothing you said sounded sarcastic.

My post went exactly like this ---> You truly are an asset to this hobby. With your findings there is no telling what we will be able to find out. Oh and no you weren't singled out, this stuff happens to everyone of the idiots who starts hybridizing threads because no matter how many times you tell people they are still to hard headed to understand, you know?

You started a hybridizing thread correct? Then in that post I called you an idiot and said you are too hard headed to understand that hybridizing is bad. I remember a few pages back you mentioning you want to sell them. If you had adult females of metallica balfouri and smithi you'd be breeding them!

 

[CAK]

You truly are an asset to this hobby. With your findings there is no telling what we will be able to find out. Oh and no you weren't singled out, this stuff happens to everyone of the idiots who starts hybridizing threads because no matter how many times you tell people they are still to hard headed to understand, you know?

You don't know sarcasm when you see it......Nobody who is hybridizing has good intentions it is stupid and irresponsible thing to do. You have lost so much respect on this forum that there are quite a few who won't even sell you tarantulas. Because unlike yourself money isn't the main reason they are into tarantulas and they would rather miss out on the money then sell to some idiot who will just produce a bunch of hybrids.

Kyle... Am I missing something? :?


added:

I just seen the posting above. I think it was a little Camoflauged Sarcasm.

 

[kylestl]

Kyle... Am I missing something? :?


added:

I just seen the posting above. I think it was a little Camoflauged Sarcasm.

:wall: Read up there was sarcasm in the first post.

 

[Singapore_Blue1]

My post went exactly like this ---> You truly are an asset to this hobby. With your findings there is no telling what we will be able to find out. Oh and no you weren't singled out, this stuff happens to everyone of the idiots who starts hybridizing threads because no matter how many times you tell people they are still to hard headed to understand, you know?

You started a hybridizing thread correct? Then in that post I called you an idiot and said you are too hard headed to understand that hybridizing is bad. I remember a few pages back you mentioning you want to sell them. If you had adult females of metallica balfouri and smithi you'd be breeding them!

First of all I don't keep up by going back and rereading who insults me. Second I said I would sell to only certain people...Keep up....Third I would breed a P. metallica with a P. metallica and a M. balfouri with a M. balfouri. The point I was making is if I was just in it for the money I would not bother hybridizing A.versicolor a $20 spider and a A. sp. peru purple a $20 spider if I was just in it for money...:wall:

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Kyle... Am I missing something? :?


added:

I just seen the posting above. I think it was a little Camoflauged Sarcasm.

Yeah you think???:?:? I just got on and I don't take the time to remember the insults from yesterday...

 

[arachnidsrulz12]

Dogs are all the same species so dont compare them to tarantulas who are totaly different. And no they dont breed in nature.

Many species are messed up enough as it is and what do you think will happend when these hybrids get sacs etc. Thou many hybrids cant get fertile sacks, thanks god for that.

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Yes but we are still are the same species, just different races:wall:

same as T

same species of avic but different look

 

[KoffinKat138]

Oh no.... there it goes
some new hobbyist end up with Avicularia Sp Tennessee

Thank you Ana, that just made my day.