Avic Versicolor/Peru Purple/ Hybrid Project

[CAK]

same as T

same species of avic but different look

Did you seriously just go there???? :wall:

 

[kylestl]

First of all I don't keep up by going back and rereading who insults me. Second I said I would sell to only certain people...Keep up....Third I would breed a P. metallica with a P. metallica and a M. balfouri with a M. balfouri. The point I was making is if I was just in it for the money I would not bother hybridizing A.versicolor a $20 spider and a A. sp. peru purple a $20 spider if I was just in it for money...:wall:

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Yeah you think???:?:? I just got on and I don't take the time to remember the insults from yesterday...

But your male was going to die. You do not have a versicolor male but you have a female. You put the peru purple male with the versicolor female and you said it yourself that you plan on selling. You are wanting money. If you would have did the responsible t keeper thing you would have ether let the male peru purple live out his life or shipped him out. And do you see where it would be hard for me to believe you wouldn't hybridize p metallica's. I doubt if you have a p met female you won't hybridize because that won't get the most money but if you have an extra p metallica male laying around, I could see you throwing it in with a pokie other then a metallica

 

[arachnidsrulz12]

Yes, but at least they all belong to the same species, Homo sapiens. The hybrid is just a racial thing. So not comparing to this topic.

But is it correct that some Brachypelma hybrids have been found fertile ? Then who are we to decide it's unnatural ? Nature usually shows an "unnatural mating attempt" by the infertility of the offspring...
So fertile offspring should not be considered unnatural without a further thought...

same as t

same avic species

their first world are avic

like same as human

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I don't like hybrid myself, but found out it's interesting lol

 

[Anastasia]

First of all I don't keep up by going back and rereading who insults me. Second I said I would sell to only certain people...Keep up....Third I would breed a P. metallica with a P. metallica and a M. balfouri with a M. balfouri. The point I was making is if I was just in it for the money I would not bother hybridizing A.versicolor a $20 spider and a A. sp. peru purple a $20 spider if I was just in it for money...:wall:

unfortunately they dont have just 2-3 offsprings,
sumwhere in this thread I read about keep few and euthanize rest (I personalty can Not do that)

Am sure many times folks crossbred spiders and drop cheap offsprings on dealers, and none of you even know about it

You honest and open that is good, and whatever you do just think what would be right and appropriate
I will be follow your posts on this
Anastasia

 

[CAK]

same as t

same avic species

their first world are avic

like same as human

Smallara98... is that you hiding in there? Avic is genus just like Homo is. versicolor is species just like sapien is. All humans are Homo sapien.... Some peoples children!

 

[kylestl]

same as t

same avic species

their first world are avic

like same as human

NO homo sapian is a homo sapian. A white person is a homo sapian. A black person is a homo sapian. A Muslim person is a homo sapian. A Jewish person is a homo sapian. An avicularia sp peru purple is NOT an avicularia versicolor!

 

[Singapore_Blue1]

But your male was going to die. You do not have a versicolor male but you have a female. You put the peru purple male with the versicolor female and you said it yourself that you plan on selling. You are wanting money. If you would have did the responsible t keeper thing you would have ether let the male peru purple live out his life or shipped him out. And do you see where it would be hard for me to believe you wouldn't hybridize p metallica's. I doubt if you have a p met female you won't hybridize because that won't get the most money but if you have an extra p metallica male laying around, I could see you throwing it in with a pokie other then a metallica

Well you are truely niave...Not only do I have a P. metallica female but I also have a pair of Xenesthis sp white and P. ultramarinus .....and would never ever consider such a project with these prized spiders....How dare you....Insert foot in mouth....

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NO homo sapian is a homo sapian. A white person is a homo sapian. A black person is a homo sapian. A Muslim person is a homo sapian. A Jewish person is a homo sapian. An avicularia sp peru purple is NOT an avicularia versicolor!

I totally agree with the above statement however I have theories that I am not sharing as of yet....I will share them at the appropriate time and it is in regards to this part of the topic..

 

[arachnidsrulz12]

Thank you Ana, that just made my day.

new hobbyist have ask a lot of question before they buy lol

whether it is a hybrid or not

 

[Falk]

Well you are truely niave...Not only do I have a P. metallica female but I also have a pair of Xenesthis sp white and P. ultramarinus .....and would never ever consider such a project with these prized spiders....How dare you....Insert foot in mouth....

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I totally agree with the above statement however I have theories that I am not sharing as of yet....I will share them at the appropriate time and it is in regards to this part of the topic..

So the Avicularia spp. is junk just because they are cheap?

 

[kylestl]

Well you are truely niave...Not only do I have a P. metallica female but I also have a pair of Xenesthis sp white and P. ultramarinus .....and would never ever consider such a project with these prized spiders....How dare you....Insert foot in mouth....

You are prizing value over species. Since a peru purple and a versicolor are not of value you are just going to hybridize them and do not care how screwed up the species gets but something that has value you won't hybridize because they are of value. Please keep posting you are making my points even more valid.

 

[Singapore_Blue1]

NO homo sapian is a homo sapian. A white person is a homo sapian. A black person is a homo sapian. A Muslim person is a homo sapian. A Jewish person is a homo sapian. An avicularia sp peru purple is NOT an avicularia versicolor!

I totally agree with the above statement however I have theories that I am not sharing as of yet....I will share them at the appropriate time and it is in regards to this part of the topic..

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You are prizing value over species. Since a peru purple and a versicolor are not of value you are just going to hybridize them and do not care how screwed up the species gets but something that has value you won't hybridize because they are of value. Please keep posting you are making my points even more valid.

No I am not saying that Avics have no value the only point I was trying to make here is if I was trying to make money "like you said I was" I would have picked a more expensive species to do this with...:?:?

 

[arachnidsrulz12]

NO homo sapian is a homo sapian. A white person is a homo sapian. A black person is a homo sapian. A Muslim person is a homo sapian. A Jewish person is a homo sapian. An avicularia sp peru purple is NOT an avicularia versicolor!

avic are avic

they are the same species, but have different look

as I said I don't like hybrid myself, but found out interesting

 

[Falk]

same as T

same species of avic but different look

No you dont get it, Avicularia is the genus, versicolor is the SPECIE:wall:

 

[CAK]

avic are avic

they are the same species, but have different look

as I said I don't like hybrid myself, but found out interesting

Avic are NOT Avic


Put down your World of Warcraft for a minute and just read...


Avicularia versicolor is NOT the same as Avicularia sp Peru Purple.

 

[Anastasia]

avic are avic

they are the same species, but have different look

as I said I don't like hybrid myself, but found out interesting

Nope,
Avicularia is a genus, and there is a versicolor or Peru purple is a species

 

[kylestl]

avic are avic

they are the same species, but have different look

as I said I don't like hybrid myself, but found out interesting

NO THEY ARE NOT. Avicularia is the species. versicolor is the subspecies. Just as homo is the species and sapian is the subspecies. like with avicularia species peru purple notice how the species goes before peru purple, want to know why? because they are different.

 

[John Kanker]

there you go, and then everyone wonders why Avicularia genus is a mess

thats more to do with lost type specimens and bad or old papers that are hard to understand. This should not effect anything in the serious taxomical world as describing from captive bred spiders/ hobby spiders is not very profesional.
I say go for it and have fun trying. Its what the hobby is about...fun.

 

[arachnidsrulz12]

No you dont get it, Avicularia is the genus, versicolor is the SPECIE:wall:

k man

I know that Avicularia is a genus

 

[Singapore_Blue1]

unfortunately they dont have just 2-3 offsprings,
sumwhere in this thread I read about keep few and euthanize rest (I personalty can Not do that)

Am sure many times folks crossbred spiders and drop cheap offsprings on dealers, and none of you even know about it

You honest and open that is good, and whatever you do just think what would be right and appropriate
I will be follow your posts on this
Anastasia

I will and thank you

 

[arachnidsrulz12]

NO THEY ARE NOT. Avicularia is the species. versicolor is the subspecies. Just as homo is the species and sapian is the subspecies. like with avicularia species peru purple notice how the species goes before peru purple, want to know why? because they are different.

I was going to say they are the same genus, but wrote it species