Avic Versicolor/Peru Purple/ Hybrid Project

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arachnidsrulz12 said:
k man

I know that Avicularia is a genus
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It is a genus in the Avicularia species.. .YES Now, in your delicate texting speak and clearly texted out....


Avicularia avicularia iz diff dan Avicularia versicolor. k
 
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arachnidsrulz12 said:
avic are avic

they are the same species, but have different look

as I said I don't like hybrid myself, but found out interesting:D
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The latin names always are formed by a Genus and a speciesname. Genus is capitalised, species without capital.
So we are in the genus Homo, the species sapiens. As opposed to the extincted species Homo erectus.

Same for Avicularia. It is a genus, containing sevarl species like Avicularia avicularia, Avicularia metallica, Avicularia versicolor.
They are NOT the same, but different species in a same genus.
 
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CAK said:
It is a genus in the Avicularia species.. .YES Now, in your delicate texting speak and clearly texted out....


Avicularia avicularia iz diff dan Avicularia versicolor. k
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They are in the same genus, but in different species
 
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John Kanker said:
thats more to do with lost type specimens and bad or old papers that are hard to understand. This should not effect anything in the serious taxomical world as describing from captive bred spiders/ hobby spiders is not very profesional.
I say go for it and have fun trying. Its what the hobby is about...fun.
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yep, there you go and another opinion
At this point I just have to say,
Folks if you looking for specific spider pick careful where you getting them from or you end up with a mutt, unless you can care less about it
its all fun and games untill someone out of money and dont get what they paied for ;)
just sayn...........
 
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CombiChrist said:
The latin names always are formed by a Genus and a speciesname. Genus is capitalised, species without capital.
So we are in the genus Homo, the species sapiens. As opposed to the extincted species Homo erectus.

Same for Avicularia. It is a genus, containing sevarl species like Avicularia avicularia, Avicularia metallica, Avicularia versicolor.
They are NOT the same, but different species in a same genus.
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as I says I forget to name the genus

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Anastasia said:
yep, there you go and another opinion
At this point I just have to say,
Folks if you looking for specific spider pick careful where you getting them from or you end up with a mutt, unless you can care less about it
its all fun and games untill someone out of money and dont get what they paied for ;)
just sayn...........
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yes, hobbyist have to ask a lot of question before they buy:D

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I won't even buy a hybrid species, but will get it for free and won't even breed them, because their gene are coocoo or bad
 
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Well I am going to get off for a while so I can get pictures and video of the second breeding...This will be posted in a couple of hours....
 
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NO THEY ARE NOT. Avicularia is the species. versicolor is the subspecies. Just as homo is the species and sapian is the subspecies. like with avicularia species peru purple notice how the species goes before peru purple, want to know why? because they are different.
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The Avicularia spp. dont have any subspecies only genus+specie
 
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As someone who collects and breeds almost exclusively Avicularia, this thread is very, very frustrating. Asking questions is not the issue. Lots of avic slings ALREADY look alike enough that they can be confusing. Adding an unscrupulous seller to the mix that could his hybrids as pure species makes it almost impossible to know what you have until long after purchase, if ever. The more hands they pass through, the harder it gets to trace origins, just like with WC avics that are imported under species names that may or may not be correct just so the paperwork can be filled out completely.

IMO, the ONLY way to do such an "experiment" responsibly is to never, EVER let a single one of the slings leave your possession, because you never know what the person you sold/gave them to is going to do with them.
 
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Nicole said:
As someone who collects and breeds almost exclusively Avicularia, this thread is very, very frustrating. Asking questions is not the issue. Lots of avic slings ALREADY look alike enough that they can be confusing. Adding an unscrupulous seller to the mix that could his hybrids as pure species makes it almost impossible to know what you have until long after purchase, if ever. The more hands they pass through, the harder it gets to trace origins, just like with WC avics that are imported under species names that may or may not be correct just so the paperwork can be filled out completely.

IMO, the ONLY way to do such an "experiment" responsibly is to never, EVER let a single one of the slings leave your possession, because you never know what the person you sold/gave them to is going to do with them.
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yup almost the Avic genus/species sling look the same
 
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I asked a friend of mine with a lot of knowledge about this and he think that it wont work because A. versicolor and Avicularia sp. "Peru purple" belong to different komplex within the genus.
 
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Anastasia said:
yep, there you go and another opinion
At this point I just have to say,
Folks if you looking for specific spider pick careful where you getting them from or you end up with a mutt, unless you can care less about it
its all fun and games untill someone out of money and dont get what they paied for ;)
just sayn...........
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yes another opinion just like yours. and I just have to say I would have thought that if you were serious about not having hybrids you would pick very carefully where you got your spiders from anyway so no change there.

and your fun and games example happens more often enough anyway, when people buy things like a phampo sp thinking it is a T. blondi and countless other examples that have nothing to do with hybrids and more to do with eithe,r people knowingly ripping people off or very bad IDs that no one bothers to check. so no change there either.
just sayn........
 
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