They made it rather clear that cash changing hands in any direction is a problem.
So if someone out of state gifted me one, I could never give them money or giftcards or anything for their birthday or Christmas or whatever? For completely, bona fide actually unrelated stuff? To me it seems like an honestly unrelated money exchange could be used to convict us.
This post demonstrates a desire to circumvent the law. That seems enough to demonstrate both intent and motive. The transaction itself would show opportunity. That's the needed triumvirate for conviction right there. Seems like a bad idea.
Those would probably be far enough apart and would coincide with other stuff enough to if they did think it suspicious you’d have a good case for yourself. That being said, I highly recommend proper and meticulous documentation if you do receive one as a bona fide gift.
Roundabout interstate sale. Don’t do it.
Let me be clear, I currently have all the Sri Lankan species that I currently want (subfusca lowland, fasciata, and vittata) so my post is is proof of nothing. Believe me, I wouldn't be dumb enough to make a post if I were actually planning to do something like this. While I understand this would be technically illegal, I was mostly wondering if they would push the law that far, or would they think it would be to hard to prove and not worth the trouble.
We’re in uncharted territory here so its anyone’s guess. I’d certainly heir on the side of caution.
My guess is people will be thinking of, and doing, things like this all over the place. If people want these species bad enough, well, we all know what some people are willing to do to get what they want.
Some laws might be broken by some because the laws aren't clear about some scenarios. Also if they forget to read their state's laws.
I guarantee that there people will break the law. The question is how many will get caught and how hard will the feds come down on them?
This makes me mad because what if it's a coincidence but it can't be proved one? I don't know about others, but I don't give the same person the same amount of money at the same-ish time of year.
Let's hope very few break the law. We don't need hobbyists to be seen as criminals.
I did too, but all it did was confuse me. I've emailed them. Hopefully the response will actually be helpful, unlike my last email about this.
My concern is not making money off of them, it's that there's a chance of some of these dying out in some states, while they go extinct in the wild. Also they don't consider CB specimens pure enough to be bred fir conservation.
They should more strict on imports into the US of these rather than banning interstate sales. Actually, they should SUPPORT captive breeding and selling across the country! Then smuggling into the US will go down.(Not that it's high anyway...yet <-- because of law) Why would you smuggle if there are plenty of lower priced spiders already in the country?
The truth is if they really cared about these species they would have taken time to research what exactly was going on in the hobby. Instead they use a cookie cutter approach - this is what we did in the past, this is what we will do with these species. It's just laziness and a lack open mindedness to other ways of doing things.