Looking for a new, reliable guard dog.

[357wheelgunner]

I want to apologize for upsetting you. I understand people are very passionate about somethings. I did not intend to give Pit's a bad name. In all honesty, your right. You are very well educated and experienced with dogs. Thank you for setting me straight. I'll educate myself more thoroughly before I post a random thought again.

Wow, it's always impressive when someone realizes that they were wrong and learns from it.

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[357wheelgunner]

Good post:clap:

Thanks, great sig

 

[arachyd]

"Dude, thats what chicks are for. There is absolutely no point in having an animal "love you" or technology for that matter."

That would be "dudette".
If you're going to quote me at least quote me in context. My comment was a response to a comment on dogs vs technology not dogs vs things that love you.

As far as your comment, it is one of the stupidest things I've seen written. Can we get a poll on how many here have been ripped off, divorced, financially ruined, cheated on and figuratively stabbed in the back by their beloved human significant other? A dog that loves you is loyal and would never do something intentionally knowing it will harm the ones it loves for some stupid, selfish reason.

 

[mikeythefireman]

I think I'm in love.:clap:

"Dude, thats what chicks are for. There is absolutely no point in having an animal "love you" or technology for that matter."

That would be "dudette".
If you're going to quote me at least quote me in context. My comment was a response to a comment on dogs vs technology not dogs vs things that love you.

As far as your comment, it is one of the stupidest things I've seen written. Can we get a poll on how many here have been ripped off, divorced, financially ruined, cheated on and figuratively stabbed in the back by their beloved human significant other? A dog that loves you is loyal and would never do something intentionally knowing it will harm the ones it loves for some stupid, selfish reason.

 

[sassysmama]

It's pretty much a given that dogs are effective protection. Think police dogs. People that carry a gun at all times still like the benefit of a dog's instincts and protection. And yes, I have seen tv shows that say that criminals are more afraid of dogs than guns. In some ways, it doesn't make much sense, but in others, it really does. Basically, even the best trained marksmen can miss, especially in the heat of the moment. A dog can run faster and farther than a human. They can smell and hear people even when they are hiding. Once a police dog knows where the person is, there is very little that is going to stop them from biting. And yes, a bullet will stop a dog. But it will kill a person just as easily.
Dogs and alarm systems are both just deterrents. If someone really wants to get in and kill you, there may be nothing that can stop them.
I have no problem with guard dogs in theory. The way some people execute it is another story. It sounds like some people are opposed to the keeping of dogs for protection. That's fine, but it does not mean that they are not good protection for others. Many people are against the ownership of large snakes. Doesn't mean I won't have one, or that they make lousy pets for me. In a nutshell, there are some human beings that suck at keeping pets. This should not be taken as the fault of the animal. If a guard dog is vicious and attacks people at random, that is the fault of the owner, not the dog. Police dogs can interact perfectly well with children one minute, and "get the bad guys" the next. If you want a guard dog, find the right breed for you, train it properly, and treat it humanely. If you don't want one, well, no one is saying you have to have one.

 

[inneshealy]

Wolves DO live longer than dogs would in the wild and we already know they live longer in captivity. 20 years is a considerable bit more than 12, eh?

20 years is the record for wolves not the average. The average in the wild is about 8 years. The average for a domestic dog in a human environment is between 10 and 12.

We'll never know if the domesticated wanted to be domesticated so we shouldn't have forced it.

Just to throw a quick spanner in the works but you could relate this back to your religion. You never know if the people you try to convert want to be converted so you shouldn't force it. Sounds to me like you haven't thought things through and are a tad hypocritical.

Think what you want. I don't care about lightning. It doesn't go after the weak and helpless, its natural and I'm safe cause it only kills idiots.

Lightning only goes after idiots? Uh huh... sure....

 

[inneshealy]

A Boerboel is nice dog to go for. Not sure if you can get them where you live but they are fantastic with kids and very good guard dogs as well. And very nice lovable pets

 

[inneshealy]

Sure. Herps and Inverts.

Just out of curiosity what herps do you keep?

 

[ThomasH]

Lightning only goes after idiots? Uh huh... sure....

Yes. We have great quality shelter to keep us safe but some tard always goes outside in lightning. It ain't like lightning comes out of no where with no warning.

 

[ThomasH]

Just out of curiosity what herps do you keep?

Texas Rat
Emory's Rat
3 Black Rats
2 Crested Gecko
All unmutated.

 

[ThomasH]

Just to throw a quick spanner in the works but you could relate this back to your religion. You never know if the people you try to convert want to be converted so you shouldn't force it. Sounds to me like you haven't thought things through and are a tad hypocritical.

In reality everyone is at least a little hypocritical.
I feed my snakes and T's domesticated animals because I have no other option.

 

[Mister Internet]

I'd like to see this article. Please site certified, proven information for this and then I'll buy it.
There is also, as many crimes, different factors contributing. (i.e. If such article exists, the 'criminals' it was done on could have been a single spectrum. "Professional criminals" covers a broad range...more than could possible or logically be compared in a single data gathering.)

Just so we're clear... you're allowed to blast off at any time with whatever thought pops into your head about whatever subject people are discussing, but any dissenters must have "certified" information to back them up? I don't recall you including YOUR Information Certification number in what you posted... perhaps some "certified" information from you would go a long way towards people not viewing you as a bored girl who misguidedly thinks more highly of animals than people and pretends to be an expert in every subject she engages.

Personal Experience > Research > Experiences of Acquaintances > Google

 

[vbrooke]

Just so we're clear... you're allowed to blast off at any time with whatever thought pops into your head about whatever subject people are discussing, but any dissenters must have "certified" information to back them up? I don't recall you including YOUR Information Certification number in what you posted... perhaps some "certified" information from you would go a long way towards people not viewing you as a bored girl who misguidedly thinks more highly of animals than people and pretends to be an expert in every subject she engages.

Personal Experience > Research > Experiences of Acquaintances > Google

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[357wheelgunner]

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Personal Experience > Research > Experiences of Acquaintances > Google

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[inneshealy]

In reality everyone is at least a little hypocritical.
I feed my snakes and T's domesticated animals because I have no other option.

By keeping and breeding herps and T's in captivity are you yourself not instrumental in the process of domesticating these creatures? Technically the animals in your care are already dependant on you for food etc. Yes if you released those animals back into their native habitat they could survive but then the same can be said for cats and they are considered domesticated... Just a thought...

 

[ThomasH]

By keeping and breeding herps and T's in captivity are you yourself not instrumental in the process of domesticating these creatures? Technically the animals in your care are already dependant on you for food etc. Yes if you released those animals back into their native habitat they could survive but then the same can be said for cats and they are considered domesticated... Just a thought...

No, they aren't being domesticated. Look at an Asian wild cat and compare it to a house cat. there is a huge difference. If you compare an unmutated reptile to one in the wild there is no difference.

 

[CURARE]

my favorite ones..
Malinois,Kuvasz,Kangal,Cao d laboreira, Dogo argentino all are good guards .no way to enter your farm without you.

 

[inneshealy]

No, they aren't being domesticated. Look at an Asian wild cat and compare it to a house cat. there is a huge difference. If you compare an unmutated reptile to one in the wild there is no difference.

The key there being unmutated. Are your snakes wild caught or captive bred? If they're captive bred how do you know that they are not mutated? They could have various hets that you don't know about unless you test breed them... I could be wrong but in my opinion captive bred animals especially selectively bred animals (breeding for various traits) are the start of domestication. Unless you have a wild caught animal or you know the history of the animal you bought you don't know if somewhere alone the line its ancestors were selectively bred. It might look normal but there could be hets in there that you don't know about?

 

[ThomasH]

Actually you can tell hets from normals by sight. Hets have strage abnormal features. Besides new blood is brought from the wild by breeders all the time. If they want a cheap adult snake to breed soon its hard to find cheap cb adults or take 3-5 years raising a reptile. No captive breeding isn't the first step in domestication if you keep bloodlines clear of relatives. That is what would happen in the wild and yes snakes slowly evolve over time along with every animal but we keep bringing in new blood so guess what? It doesn't matter!
This argument is over, I keep trying to end it but it seems like I'm just throwing gasoline on a fire every time.
TBH

 

[crpy]

Boa, how you END it is by not replying, take your licks/victories and move on