Looking for a new, reliable guard dog.

[halfwaynowhere]

make sure your home insurance policy doesn't have anything against certain dog breeds, a lot of policies don't allow you to have pitbulls.

If your dog will be just a working dog, guarding the property, you might consider training it in a different language- not english. That way if someone breaks in, it won't respond to them if they try to give it commands.

 

[vbrooke]

make sure your home insurance policy doesn't have anything against certain dog breeds, a lot of policies don't allow you to have pitbulls.

If your dog will be just a working dog, guarding the property, you might consider training it in a different language- not english. That way if someone breaks in, it won't respond to them if they try to give it commands.

That is a great point. Well both points. We had to have our dog certified as a service dog so that the insurance would allow her. In CA, no Pits, Rotties, Chows, Akita, German shep., Dalmatians, or any mix of any breed listed. Some insurance Co. will make exceptions, others will not. Renters beware...they are even more strict with those.

The non English training would be great!! I intended to train my Shep. in German. Schutzhund training is highly recommended.

 

[Necrobyheart]

well heck, the two of my favorite breeds of dogs are out than (akita, and chow)

 

[Diggy415]

have you looked at your local shelter, humane society, there is another puppy source that been through it all and loyal. Good luck on the non digging breed, maybe you can find a non barking one as well, dogs are dogs. I have been a rotty fan myself and own my own home. Anyway that's my 2 cents worth.

 

[hairmetalspider]

A dog is an awesome deterrent to have ,proven time and time again.

On several occasions in my life I would probably be dead without my pooch waken me up to a threat. One being an intruder punk coming through my porch and other situations.

It is different than somebody training a dog to just be mean and therefore dangerous

Right. That's why I threw in the physical appearance threat.

What I'm saying is that if it comes down to a match between a human being a dog, the human is probably going to win.

I'd rather have a dog as a companion than an alarm system... They have technology for that.

 

[hairmetalspider]

I would go for a rot and have it trained.

While Rots and other bully breeds have theability to be trained as defense/attack dogs...why do it? Why purposely train an animal to be mean?

It's simply backing and supporting the unfounded beliefs of society that all bully breeds are dangerous, thus resulting in the thousands of deaths and euthanization of a defenseless animal.

 

[crpy]

Right. That's why I threw in the physical appearance threat.

What I'm saying is that if it comes down to a match between a human being a dog, the human is probably going to win.

I'd rather have a dog as a companion than an alarm system... They have technology for that.

I know what you are saying...but

Here is an example of the two ......With an alarm system,the perp has to trigger it, and it usually requires something to be broken, i.e. window, door etc.
With a dog ,you get an advanced warning most of the time before some perp breaks in and that could mean the difference of life...or death.

 

[hairmetalspider]

I know what you are saying...but

Here is an example of the two ......With an alarm system,the perp has to trigger it, and it usually requires something to be broken, i.e. window, door etc.
With a dog ,you get an advanced warning most of the time before some perp breaks in and that could mean the difference of life...or death.

I disagree. There are thousands of different alarm systems and you can adjust the sensitivity on them to whatever your desire is...This in situations can be set up to be activated far before someone makes it to even touching your house.

Let's just get right to the point because I think there's a matter of personal opinion here... I view animals of equal quality as humans (If not more.) I don't think getting a dog purely to protect you or as an alarm system is right, as that is objectifying them.

There's also a matter of this: Either the dog could die in the process, or you're going to get your butt sued by an intruder (Yes, this happens, in our wonderful country.) due to the law of force.

 

[crpy]

I disagree. There are thousands of different alarm systems and you can adjust the sensitivity on them to whatever your desire is...This in situations can be set up to be activated far before someone makes it to even touching your house.

Let's just get right to the point because I think there's a matter of personal opinion here... I view animals of equal quality as humans (If not more.) I don't think getting a dog purely to protect you or as an alarm system is right, as that is objectifying them.

There's also a matter of this: Either the dog could die in the process, or you're going to get your butt sued by an intruder (Yes, this happens, in our wonderful country.) due to the law of force.

I respect your opinion, mine just differs alittle.

 

[hairmetalspider]

I respect your opinion, mine just differs alittle.

Cool. We'll just leave it at that then.

 

[pitbulllady]

Or, if you want a breed that is very protective, loyal and will scare people from entering your house, Get a Pitbull. They have a bad reputation, but a well bred, well trained pit could be the best pet/guard dog ever!

You're absolutely WRONG about that, vbrooke! A well-bred, well-trained American Pit Bull Terrier is the absolute WORST, LOUSIEST guard dog EVER! I've had, and bred, some of the most well-bred APBT's anyone would ever see, and believe me, I KNOW APBT's! This breed was originally bred to have ZERO human aggression, since handlers in dog fights actually got into the ring with the dogs, as did the referee, and they had to be able to pick up and handle these dogs in the heat of battle without risk of being bitten. Any dog that so much as growled or snapped at a human, for any reason, got removed from the gene pool, usually by means of a .22 bullet between its eyes. The main ancestors of this breed were the "Old Family" Irish bull-and-terriers that were brought over here to the US by poor Irish immigrants, and those dogs were often the only thing of value that those people had, which they could barter for things they needed in their new country, like food, clothing or furniture, so the dogs had to be willing to go away with a total stranger and accept that stranger as their new master immediately. Even the AKC standard for the show version of the APBT, the American Staffordshire Terrier, specifically mentions that willingness to accept any person as their master right away. That's not a trait that a good guard dog would have, needless to say! A well-bred, well-trained American Pit Bull does not understand the meaning of "stranger"; to such a dog, everyone is a long-lost friend! This is probably the most frequent victim of dog thieves, too-they can literally just drive up in a yard full of Pit Bulls and load them up and take them away. I had it happen to me. I lost four generations of dogs in one afternoon, most likely to someone the dogs had never met. They're just happy to see everybody and it does not occur to them that some people are up to no good. While an APBT would probably defend its owner in the case of an immediate violent personal attack on the owner, they will not protect property and do not have the natural suspicious nature and high territoriality of a guarding breed. So-called "Pit Bulls" that ARE naturally protective are in all likelihood cross-breeds, since there is a lot of cross-breeding with larger Mastiff breeds to produce these heavy, bulky and aggressive giant "Pit Bulls", but of course, the results are still mixed-bred dogs, NOT real APBT's, and do not have proper APBT temperament! Any "Pit Bull" that acts aggressive towards people entering or nearing their owner's property, whether or not that person is behaving in a threatening manner, is either a mutt, or it's been specifically trained, usually through abusive methods, to make it that way, and is most definitely NOT a "well-bred" example of the breed.

I keep Catahoula Leopard Dogs for guard dogs. They ARE, unlike Pit Bulls, naturally suspicious of and defensive against strangers, and are every bit as "game". However, I believe that the original poster stated that he wanted a dog with naturally-erect ears, even though contrary to popular belief, erect-eared dogs do not necessarily hear better than dogs with dropped or cropped ears. I can assure you my Catahoulas have no hearing difficulty at all, even though they do have drop ears, like a Rottweiler's. IF you can find a well-bred German Shepherd, or Belgian Malinois, those would be my next choices, followed by Dutch Shepherds. The latter two are medium-sized breeds, now the preferred breeds used by police and military, and do not have as much coat as a GSD, so if size and shedding is a big issue, those would be two to look into. But a Pit Bull, no-unless you want a dog to lick a burglar's face and help him carry out your tv and furniture!

pitbulllady

 

[ThomasH]

I am 100% against dogs. They are stupid, eat a ton, bark constantly and require a lot of care. I think our domestication of dogs over thousands of years IS morally wrong. From being inbred some many times we have engineered them to be pretty and helpful. But we have also engineered them to become much, much weaker. They now have shorter lives, they suffer from issues that a full blooded wolf would never face and lets face it they are a heck of a lot more obnoxious than a wolf! Dogs bark and bark and bark until you feel like you have a helpless crying good for nothing baby. The only difference between a dog and a helpless baby is the dog is stronger, the baby will grow up to independance, and of course the dog didn't come out of a [human] uterus. Not to mention you'll probably need an alarm system FROM the dog. They have more human body parts rotting in their stomachs than any other animal and kill an estimated thirty five people a year in the states alone! They go after the weak, mostly killing children and the elderly. Thats more than all the other captive animals combined. Why dogs are loved, not regulated and called man's best friend is beyond me. More like man's baby killer.

 

[DMTWI]

A well-bred, well-trained American Pit Bull Terrier is the absolute WORST, LOUSIEST guard dog EVER!
pitbulllady

:clap: Thank you!

 

[crpy]

I am 100% against dogs. They are stupid, eat a ton, bark constantly and require a lot of care. I think our domestication of dogs over thousands of years IS morally wrong. From being inbred some many times we have engineered them to be pretty and helpful. But we have also engineered them to become much, much weaker. They now have shorter lives, they suffer from issues that a full blooded wolf would never face and lets face it they are a heck of a lot more obnoxious than a wolf! Dogs bark and bark and bark until you feel like you have a helpless crying good for nothing baby. The only difference between a dog and a helpless baby is the dog is stronger, the baby will grow up to independance, and of course the dog didn't come out of a [human] uterus. Not to mention you'll probably need an alarm system FROM the dog. They have more human body parts rotting in their stomachs than any other animal and kill an estimated thirty five people a year in the states alone! They go after the weak, mostly killing children and the elderly. Thats more than all the other captive animals combined. Why dogs are loved, not regulated and called man's best friend is beyond me. More like man's baby killer.

You obviously failed to do any research to back up your dribble dude.

but its your opinion and your welcomed to it.

 

[Veneficus]

I am 100% against dogs. They are stupid, eat a ton, bark constantly and require a lot of care. I think our domestication of dogs over thousands of years IS morally wrong. From being inbred some many times we have engineered them to be pretty and helpful. But we have also engineered them to become much, much weaker. They now have shorter lives, they suffer from issues that a full blooded wolf would never face and lets face it they are a heck of a lot more obnoxious than a wolf! Dogs bark and bark and bark until you feel like you have a helpless crying good for nothing baby. The only difference between a dog and a helpless baby is the dog is stronger, the baby will grow up to independance, and of course the dog didn't come out of a [human] uterus. Not to mention you'll probably need an alarm system FROM the dog. They have more human body parts rotting in their stomachs than any other animal and kill an estimated thirty five people a year in the states alone! They go after the weak, mostly killing children and the elderly. Thats more than all the other captive animals combined. Why dogs are loved, not regulated and called man's best friend is beyond me. More like man's baby killer.

You definitely over-generalized and didn't do any research before going on your petty tirade.

 

[ThomasH]

You definitely over-generalized and didn't do any research before going on your petty tirade.

Oh really? Explain why the domestication of an animal should be ethical. Why should WE chose an animal's looks, life style and service we want from it? We aren't Jesus, we shouldn't make his decisions. The only thing I said that wasn't a fact is that I mistook 100s of years for 1,000.

 

[Scott C.]

Can you answer the question of why shouldn't we without a religious tirade that only applies to a select few?....

Seriously dude, the righteous man in a world of immoral heathens thing can't be doing you any good.

 

[ThomasH]

Can you answer the question of why shouldn't we without a religious tirade that only applies to a select few?....

Seriously dude, the righteous man in a world of immoral heathens thing can't be doing you any good.

We USED the wolf. We screwed its rightful gene pool to our personal benifit. Dogs live shorter lives now. Some dogs have been so inbred that they can't even function any more. Look at the Chinese Crested. Most can't even CHEW their own food. Could you image being that weak, helpless and dependant.

 

[ThomasH]

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/ffximage/elwood_wideweb__470x348,2.jpg
Does this look like a dog that could function on its own? It can't even close its mouth. Its sick that this dog has to suffer because some D-bag thought it would be funny to breed an ugly dog. All dogs [especially purebreds] suffer their own issues. Some deformaties are just more visible than others.

 

[Mushroom Spore]

Boa's just trolling, guys, let's just leave it.