Avic Versicolor/Peru Purple/ Hybrid Project

[arachnidsrulz12]

to correct you, I would say some, few
there is over four dozen species of Avicularia genus, and Am sure more that we dont even know about it

I don't need a correction I like to say whatever I want ;P

I already said that we don't know their are different genus of avic

read the beggining of the post lol

 

[CAK]

I don't need a correction I like to say whatever I want ;P

I already said that we don't know their are different genus of avic

read the beggining of the post lol

Attitude like that... You won't last long around here.

 

[Anastasia]

yes another opinion just like yours. and I just have to say I would have thought that if you were serious about not having hybrids you would pick very carefully where you got your spiders from anyway so no change there.

and your fun and games example happens more often enough anyway, when people buy things like a phampo sp thinking it is a T. blondi and countless other examples that have nothing to do with hybrids and more to do with eithe,r people knowingly ripping people off or very bad IDs that no one bothers to check. so no change there either.
just sayn........

little bit of difference between mis ID and crossbreeding...no?
just sayin.........

 

[arachnidsrulz12]

Attitude like that... You won't last long around here.

lol
these is a free country

 

[CAK]

lol
these is a free country

Very much agree these is a free country. ;P

 

[arachnidsrulz12]

Very much agree these is a free country. ;P

your attitude too won't last long on here too lol

just kidding

 

[Chris_Skeleton]

little bit of difference between mis ID and crossbreeding...no?
just sayin.........

+1. That was a horrible example. Atleast with a misidentification like that, you could still breed them without messing anything up or hybridizing.

 

[hassman789]

did they stop fighting? I read the first 2 pages and got bored. My opinion is that many RESPONSIBLE people who you say you may give too would feel against it, but like I said, MANY responsible people, not all. But If most the people who are actualy responsible dont want them, the people you are giving them to may be IResponsible. That probably didn't make alot of sense but I tried... lol

 

[Poxicator]

We often see the argument "it happens in the wild" and yet we rarely see the ramifications of that, its rather a sweeping statement that many use, and yet there's few examples of it. Many species are pocketed into areas that restrict hybridising due to natural elements, eg rivers, islands, mountain regions etc.
However, when hobbyists quote this occurrence they rarely stick to species that might be found to hybridise, and therefore IMO merely use it to support their argument.
The 2 species mentioned are separated by a good many miles and plenty of water. In the wild they'd never meet except by the intervention of man. Peru and the Antilles Islands are at least 800 miles apart. It certainly wouldn't surprise me if that failure to examine locational hybridisation resulted in the loss of either the male or the female.


Looking at your profile it suggests you're 25 yrs old, and you say you've been keeping Ts for 15 years. Most people I know that have kept Ts for that duration are keen to avoid hybridisation, they are aware of the results, the threat to hobby stock, and importantly they are aware of the importance of the correct procedure and how to suggest their trials in forums without attracting so much negativity. Your 15 years of experience may have taught you husbandry but it lacks so much understanding.

Of course you'd have to ask how sure you are that your Avics aren't already hybrids.

 

[Silberrücken]

The only winning move is not to play

Stop feeding the troll, people.

It's all mind games, playing on wordplay.

Heated discussions, name-calling, etc etc= happy troll

My opinion? no cross-breeding

Closure of this thread, and permanently locked, that gets my vote. Anyone in agreement?

 

[arachnidsrulz12]

The only winning move is not to play

Stop feeding the troll, people.

It's all mind games, playing on wordplay.

Heated discussions, name-calling, etc etc= happy troll

My opinion? no cross-breeding

Closure of this thread, and permanently locked, that gets my vote. Anyone in agreement?

yeah, I think we should lock this thread

I'm with u

 

[Falk]

It will probably not be any offspring from this due to different komplex within the genus as i wrote earlier.

arachnidsrulz12: Yes you can say whatever you want to about genus, species etc but if you are serious you should learn what a genus and specie is. Do you even know what theraphosidae is?

 

[CAK]

It will probably not be any offspring from this due to different komplex within the genus as i wrote earlier.

arachnidsrulz12: Yes you can say whatever you want to about genus, species etc but if you are serious you should learn what a genus and specie is. Do you even know what theraphosidae is?

Yep, after the smart phone and google meet theraphosidae search string... I'm sure he does!

 

[arachnidsrulz12]

It will probably not be any offspring from this due to different komplex within the genus as i wrote earlier.

arachnidsrulz12: Yes you can say whatever you want to about genus, species etc but if you are serious you should learn what a genus and specie is. Do you even know what theraphosidae is?

I know what a genus and species is

look at the thread first than reply

 

[Newflvr]

I know what a genus and species is

look at the thread first than reply

Well I'm confused still wondering where these, them and those fit in. Lots of tude in this thread and no plausible reasons. To the OP you brag of these high end T's that you have, don't you think time would be better spent on breeding them? My opinion on crossbreeding is just because you can don't mean you should. My 2 cents.

 

[Singapore_Blue1]

Well I am having to delay the actual video but here are some pics of the second breeding attempt...

 

[Leviticus]

No I didn't (do you read English?) Second do not call me a liar then you and I will have problems. My intention is to go to Vanderbilt and seek help...Being from Canada I doubt you even know what school I am talking about.

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Your probably right :clap:....Odds are against me :?...However experience is with me ..So you never know..

Just want to say that now you are calling down Canadians. Judging from the posts you have made I would bet my collection that I could name more American Academic Institutions than you could.

 

[Singapore_Blue1]

I asked a friend of mine with a lot of knowledge about this and he think that it wont work because A. versicolor and Avicularia sp. "Peru purple" belong to different komplex within the genus.

Well I guess we may find out if your friend knows what he is talking about then....

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Just want to say that now you are calling down Canadians. Judging from the posts you have made I would bet my collection that I could name more American Academic Institutions than you could.

Not trying to affend any Canadians however I was tired of that guys condesending attitude. Being that he has been on the boards for about a year I don't take his attitude or comments seriously at all... But I apologize for the use of Canada in the subject

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Well I'm confused still wondering where these, them and those fit in. Lots of tude in this thread and no plausible reasons. To the OP you brag of these high end T's that you have, don't you think time would be better spent on breeding them? My opinion on crossbreeding is just because you can don't mean you should. My 2 cents.

Yeah your totally right my time would be better spent with them and I plan on taking that time for those spiders. However I am waiting on both males to mature out which should be next molt...

 

[Poxicator]

Is the breeding on your arm part of this scientific experiment?

 

[Singapore_Blue1]

Is the breeding on your arm part of this scientific experiment?

haha very funny...No and I am very hands on with my T's in general so don't go down that road. Stay on the topic please.