Species Poecilotheria metallica

[Sleepwalkah]

Hi,

you mated a black female to a blue male?
Ok, they're both P.metallica but maybe now you've combined two different subspecies... who knows?

 

[Hendrik C.]

Hello Joscha,

I don't think the black P. metallica is a subspecies of the "normal" P. metallica.

Best regards,
Hendrik

 

[david goldsboro]

Hi,

you mated a black female to a blue male?
Ok, they're both P.metallica but maybe now you've combined two different subspecies... who knows?

they are the same spider both p metallica not differant sub speices collected from the same area as the blue ones i have so to me they are the same just they vary in colouration in the wild not like the cb in the wild they are open to all conditions where we keep the conditions stable so we dont see much of a colour differance in cb metallicas , none of the resulting slings will be for sale or passed in to the hobby they will all be kept for breeding stock

 

[Dark]

Does the female have a scar down her carapace? or is it just me.

 

[P. Novak]

Does the female have a scar down her carapace? or is it just me.

yes it does, I believe he said that in another thread.

 

[CedrikG]

I would still have no mixed a blue one with a black one.

 

[Midnightrdr456]

I would have done a black with a black merely to try and see if I could start making blacks available to people. I would love to have one, I also think this is nicer than the blue ones.

 

[Austin S.]

I would have done a black with a black merely to try and see if I could start making blacks available to people. I would love to have one, I also think this is nicer than the blue ones.

It would be nice to have the black metallicas in the hobby more, but to me. Mating a blue male with a black female, really does not make a difference. Are there even any records of black MM's? What if it is only females from that location that withhold this coloration and not males? Not trying to start a debate, just some curious Q's is all.

 

[Tunedbeat]

Are there even any records of black MM's? What if it is only females from that location that withhold this coloration and not males? Not trying to start a debate, just some curious Q's is all.

Here's a MM with that coloration.

Varden's Male.

 

[Austin S.]

Haha I rest my case then.

 

[Sleepwalkah]

Hi,

Here's a MM with that coloration.

so there are black males... If someone told me how to get the black WCs, I would try to breed them for the hobby...

Another thing: At P.murinus we've got a TCF = Typical Colour Form, a RCF = Red Colour Form, an UMV = Usambara Mountain Variant and so on...

But if we now tried to use this system with P.metallica, there would occur a problem: BCF could stand for Blue Colour Form, Black Colour Form and the Brown Colour Form (which can be seen here...) *confused* :?

 

[david goldsboro]

the brown metallica is just a wild caught metallica female due to moult i have 2 in my collection with the same colour not 1 blue hair left on them but that will change when they moult , there is no confusion here they are both p metallicas just slightly differant in colour i wouldnt have mated them if i though otherwise , i am still looking for a male with the same colour to mate my other 2 dark females so we wil see if it has any efect of the colour of the offspring

 

[syndicate]

best luck with the breeding David!

 

[sparular]

I study genetics and I'm curious to see if the black coloration is genetic and, if so, what inheritance pattern is displayed. Please post the color of the offspring if the mating is successful.
Spar

 

[Arachnoheebs]

Very nice! :clap:

Peace-
Mark

 

[pinktoe23]

gorgeous p. metallica but I'm a bit confused about how the dark forms originates. how do you guys know it's not a subspecies, hybrid or another poec. sp.? if the sp. was WC how can you be so sure it's still a pure p. metallica? looks to be the opposite though :?

sorry for the silly question if it has been discussed before, I'm new to the hobby

 

[Gesticulator]

I am new to Poecilotheria in general. What makes it a "dark form" P metallica and not another species? Sorry for the naive question.

 

[jmhendric]

He mentioned earlier in the thread it may be due to different weather conditions.

 

[Gesticulator]

What i meant to ask, more specifically is...
Is it the markings/patterns that are the same on the P metallicas, but the coloration different?

 

[pinktoe23]

anyone? I'm looking forward to read the answer to Terri's question too.

He mentioned earlier in the thread it may be due to different weather conditions.

now I think I'm more confused so weather can actually determine the color on some tarantulas? what has been the pattern then? brighter colors warmer climates and darker for colder?

i was thinking p. metallicas could only be found in a certain area so does this means the darker form can only be found in another area? :? if yes, then how can you know it's not another poec. species or a sub one.? if no and found among the blue ones too, then how can we be certain it's not a hybrid.

someone please, I'd like to learn how this works :8o