p. metallica

[dantediss]

keep the hobby and economy strong by selling them for what their worth ?hmmmm... im in the process of breeding them ?? even bigger hmmm...i buy any rare t blue or brown.??? HMMMM... a t is only worth what sellers want to charge,you charge 250 and ill charge 50 then ok when i get and breed them

 

[Talkenlate04]

It can be both things imo. It can be a hobby and $.
I love the hobby, but to keep at it I need some extra $. So while I like to breed anything and everything I am not trying to get rich. But I do need to make just enough to keep going.

I agree with the view that breeding just to make money is a skewed view point because it only addresses the end result, but most people that get the "I want to get rich" thought stuck in their head don't know what they are talking about. And for the most part those who have only $ stuck in their heads fail.

I had a guy ask me at work how he could get started in the hobby. I found out what he really meant was he wanted it to be a great reliable second income for him. An income that could set him up nicely to travel and buy nice things. I point blank told him he was not going to get to that level anytime soon and that the goal sounds good but it just is not that easy.

But having said that, I think if someone wants to breed to make money and that is all they are thinking of it still is a win for the hobby. IF they produce slings of various species (and that is a BIG IF) then in general the hobby wins. It may not be the outlook and attitude we want to acknowledge exists in the hobby, but in the end if they do succeed we all benefit.

keep the hobby and economy strong by selling them for what their worth ?hmmmm... im in the process of breeding them ?? even bigger hmmm...i buy any rare t blue or brown.??? HMMMM... a t is only worth what sellers want to charge,you charge 250 and ill charge 50 then ok when i get and breed them

You are one of the people I was talking about above. You can grand stand all day long about what you WANT to do and how you are going to do it but you have a LONG LONG way to go before you will ever get there. I only say that because I get the impression you don't know a whole lot about how to breed Ts. (once again just my opinion, If I am off the mark so be it)

 

[dantediss]

when that day comes you might want to buy one off me for $50...only because the way i see it a p.metallica for $50 is rarer than one for $250 : ) how many arachnoboarders would love to have a metallica in their collection aut cant because of mentalities like yours

 

[CodeWilster]

You are one of the people I was talking about above. You can grand stand all day long about what you WANT to do and how you are going to do it but you have a LONG LONG way to go before you will ever get there. I only say that because I get the impression you don't know a whole lot about how to breed Ts. (once again just my opinion, If I am off the mark so be it)

Ouch well said. But I don't want to get blamed for this off-topic nonsense now. Stick to subject of P. metallica breeding and thanks to those that did or tried to. If anybody wants to start a ranting T economy thread go for it I'll join, but 'nough said here; especially by me Good luck to Talkenlate, good luck to me , especially to dantedis, and to any other breeders of any rare species. Keep your prices smart and keep up what you're doing.

 

[Talkenlate04]

when that day comes you might want to buy one off me for $50...only because the way i see it a p.metallica for $50 is rarer than one for $250 : ) how many arachnoboarders would love to have a metallica in their collection aut cant because of mentalities like yours

Everything you are saying is all talk. To my knowledge you don't even own a P. metallica and have never bred any spider. Please correct me if I am wrong but from your verbiage I doubt you have done much in the T world.

So for now I think you have beat this horse dead, it's put up or shut up time.

Good luck to Talkenlate, good luck to me ,

Thank you very much. This has been planned now for almost 2 years. And I hope I got the timing right.

 

[dantediss]

talkenlate your on the mark as far as breeding goes my exp is nil..which is why i want to learn..start with smithis and move up to pulchras and pokies..but not for money but for satisfaction.

 

[Talkenlate04]

talkenlate your on the mark as far as breeding goes my exp is nil..which is why i want to learn..start with smithis and move up to pulchras and pokies..but not for money but for satisfaction.

Wow. Well those are goals I guess. But if I were you I'd start with something like an irminia or an obt. Not even experienced breeders can get pulchra on a regular basis (almost not at all), and smithi is not much easier.

 

[dantediss]

honestly speaking talkenlate, if say an expensive t were say maybe $100 less... it would make it easier to monetarily breed for you ..is that correct ? im not saying they should all be sold for $50 but enough to lower breeders cost in return lowering the consumers cost as well correct? its still win win both parties correct

 

[Talkenlate04]

honestly speaking talkenlate, if say an expensive t were say maybe $100 less... it would make it easier to monetarily breed for you ..is that correct ? im not saying they should all be sold for $50 but enough to lower breeders cost in return lowering the consumers cost as well correct? its still win win both parties correct

Lower breeders cost in return for lowering consumers cost?

Ok maybe I should offer some different advice. Take a business/economics class. Your logic in the above statement is horribly flawed.

 

[bliss]

honestly speaking talkenlate, if say an expensive t were say maybe $100 less... it would make it easier to monetarily breed for you ..is that correct ?

i don't get it.

are you saying:

if a T that was normally expensive costed 100$ less than it NORMALLY does, it would increase the chances of you getting a sac from it?

if that is correct...
then i don't know what kind of logic that is. just because a spider is lower in cost doesn't mean it will breed for you any easier. WC specimens can also hinder that theory. take G rosea's for example. ever try breeding them? it's rather difficult and they are cheap too. but then again, WC comes into play.

another day, another rambling that serves no purpose

 

[Talkenlate04]

I hear two things with this species. Some are doing a cool down period and some are not......... I am not sure what way I will be going. But I have to start thinking about it.

 

[dantediss]

talkenlate i apologize the one post was not meant for you..im in no way insulting you.especially knowing what you do for our hobby .its hard for me to type posts cus im doing it from a phone so it takes a while i apologize

 

[Talkenlate04]

talkenlate i apologize the one post was not meant for you..im in no way insulting you.especially knowing what you do for our hobby .its hard for me to type posts cus im doing it from a phone so it takes a while i apologize

No big deal.

You got your plan, everyone knows what it is, (even if it makes no sense) so now I will sit back and wait to see your FS ad. But if I were a betting man I'd say we don't see that ad before 2014 or so. Good luck though.

 

[dantediss]

hahaha money doesnt increase valid sacs i know..i typed it weird i just meant that if it was cheaper for breeders they would be able to purchase more for breeding..increasing odds of successful breedings sorry

 

[bliss]

i just meant that if it was cheaper for breeders they would be able to purchase more for breeding..increasing odds of successful breedings sorry

ah, well , yes that makes sense. of course. many things, not just the T hobby, work that way.

 

[Talkenlate04]

hahaha money doesnt increase valid sacs i know..i typed it weird i just meant that if it was cheaper for breeders they would be able to purchase more for breeding..increasing odds of successful breedings sorry

Ideally that would work, BUT people that do get good sacs take full advantage of the demand and it becomes first come first serve. So the slings get spread out. Many of them making it into households of hobbyists that never plan to breed.
I mean think about it. You end up with 80-120 babies at $100-150 each........ You can see why dealers sell for what they do. If someone is going to buy them then they sell them for that price. Capitalism at its greatest.

 

[CodeWilster]

I want to add a p. metallica to my collection in the next few years...and..i dont see them anywhere so its hard to get a price idea..so..i guess what im askin for is a price check plz..for slings - adults

Hey everybody check this out, it's the beginning of this thread!
I say all of us pm this user if/when we get some slings for sale. Then we can answer her question with how much they will be, and fight for who ends up making the sale, even if we get down to $50

 

[dantediss]

and yes due to my breeding knowledge 2014 sounds about right haha : ) i know my logic isnt correct in a business sense,but thats the point some people put the hobby before business,and im hoping one day to be able to breed a species reliably but until that day ill be another dreaming fool i guess : (

 

[dantediss]

im just sad to realize that with everything in this world and the way it works capitilism even extends to a t. the machine never stops..and by the by 200 for a metallica is acceptable in my eyes..id pay that in a heartbeat..but just for once to have it be CHEAP would be amazing . i understand making a buck,i work haha but at what point will someone say. ill be differant for the sake of being differant. i meant no disrespect to anyone im just upset

 

[dantediss]

and i hope you do sell her one , but if you do be nice and sell it to her for like 150-200 ...just to be differant : ) and in 2014 be ready for some competition hahaha . i understand my flawed logic ,its just that i love this hobby and i love ts..just want to extend that feeling..im a hopeless romantic hahaha