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Tarantulas.com was selling them for $150 earlier this year, but sold out. I'd expect to see someone sell more next year for around the same price.
p. metallica
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Tarantulas.com has another sac going to be for sale next week. they havent posted a price yet, but im going to venture out and say they are probably gonna be around the 150$ range just like the last sac.
I am pumped about this but not sure if im gonna be able to get any.
anyone else excited?
I am pumped about this but not sure if im gonna be able to get any.
anyone else excited?
brachy.p i wish you the best of luck and my intentions are the same as yours... if it took ME 3yrs and a boatload of money id still sell them at 50 a piece,because im in this hobby for ts not money.people who wanna buy them all and sell them at norm in my book are the reason this hobby is damaged
theres sacs hatching theres slings available but since most people see money and nothing else they destroy the hobby...its a shame and its disquisting and it makes me realize how many arachnoboarders are just like dave love... worthless thieves
my thought is that at a low price it would promote more breeding options because who wants to see $500 get munched ? $50 is an acceptable loss to a breeder in a mating attempt i believe...at least make it a stable species and an affordable one at that
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i feel the current price for p.metallica is quite fair...they are not common at all, there are not sacs of this species hatching left and right...
i dont feel the high price damages or destroys the hobby, i honestly dont get where you are coming from??? i dont think this species would really be much more available or successfully bred if the price was as low as $50...
i already own 2 of these beauts and plan on ordering another sling as soon as they are available
. the color and way this species act (mine are always out, and are great eaters) make them way worth the price what im saying is ..would you be willing to risk losing a $500 t to attempt breeding ? now what if said t only cost you say $50. ? it destroys the hobby in the sense of affordable breeding..i believe its worth $500. but i also believe we should be generous and sell SOME slings cheap to PROMOTE more breeding .make sense ?
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I am close to breeding them myself. One girl is set to molt tonight I think. The male should mature right after her, and this girl will molt not far past that. If my luck holds I'll mate two ladies soon.
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I agree. If all of the beautiful rare spiders weren't rare anymore and could be purchased cheap, there quickly wouldn't be any incentive to keep and breed these species. I admit I am always setting aside money and always looking for the hard to find species (whether they are solid brown or metallic blue). This is what drives the hobby for a lot of people, what makes it fun, and taking the tarantula economy into mind; if you breed these guys sell the babies for what they are worth. You will probably get more money this way too since these guys are ALWAYS wanted. And plus here's a timeline, with a very low price you don't want Joe Plumber over there who just bred them also to not get any business unless he drops his prices. Then somebody else will drop theirs, and that big investment they all made on a female and male pair will go down the drain. You guys will get your cheap T's you've always wanted, as the people who sold them to you go out of business. Then because they were also importers, nothing new and amazing comes into our hobby in America. Think economics people!!! I'll admit I realized this after selling 50 of my G. rosea slings for 50 bucks, great deal for others who are very happy, but I may have taken away some business from other dealers who deserve it more, and I may have contributed to the decline in G. rosea as a part of the T economics. I probably spent more money on crickets for those guys than I made anyway. I had to put this up so in case anybody noticed that add and called me a hypocrite, but also because I am remorseful. So anyway back to P. metallica. If you breed them (I am in the process
) Awesome for you, and keep the hobby exciting and the economy strong by selling them for what they are worth.i agree with you wholeheartedly,i dont want anyone to go out of business or lose money ,but lets be honest 8 sacs at 50 a sling will kill no one and will hopefully ensure availability to some extent,if after that you wanna charge 150 feel free but make the species stable..p.s its not about keeping up with the joneses but allowing others to own and afford such beautiful ts
and now im confused ..price and rarity are 'incentive' to own a t ? i thought looks,characteristics, attitude, demeanor were deciding factors ? you know you buy a t because to you its immpressive,beautiful..not so friends can come over and here how much you spent on it ?
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i'm sorry, but this, to me, only says "$$$" and not "hobby hobby hobby"I agree. If all of the beautiful rare spiders weren't rare anymore and could be purchased cheap, there quickly wouldn't be any incentive to keep and breed these species. I admit I am always setting aside money and always looking for the hard to find species (whether they are solid brown or metallic blue). This is what drives the hobby for a lot of people, what makes it fun, and taking the tarantula economy into mind; if you breed these guys sell the babies for what they are worth. You will probably get more money this way too since these guys are ALWAYS wanted. And plus here's a timeline, with a very low price you don't want Joe Plumber over there who just bred them also to not get any business unless he drops his prices. Then somebody else will drop theirs, and that big investment they all made on a female and male pair will go down the drain. You guys will get your cheap T's you've always wanted, as the people who sold them to you go out of business. Then because they were also importers, nothing new and amazing comes into our hobby in America. Think economics people!!! I'll admit I realized this after selling 50 of my G. rosea slings for 50 bucks, great deal for others who are very happy, but I may have taken away some business from other dealers who deserve it more, and I may have contributed to the decline in G. rosea as a part of the T economics. I probably spent more money on crickets for those guys than I made anyway. I had to put this up so in case anybody noticed that add and called me a hypocrite, but also because I am remorseful. So anyway back to P. metallica. If you breed them (I am in the process
maybe it's just the way i looked at it. it's definitely not the way i see it, but whatev.
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i only point the finger because that was a misleading comment...im not right,im not perfect,i wont say your wrong... but if rarity is what you want get some blind cave tarantulas or something hahaha...i just feel that a monocentropus and metallica,etc,etc should be attempted to be made available to all not just the elite and indiana jones's of the hobby
and i apologize but off topic and to stop ranting...good luck talkenlate i hope the breedings are successful,.believe me i understand fully the time work and effort that goes into it...best luck...and no im not buttering you up to get some hahahaha
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I see and consider your side too, but I was thinking more in the extremes where they get down to rock-bottom prices and then totally disrupt the economy. Sure, sell them cheap and get a few out there this will definitely help and begin to make things more fair for everyone. But make sure you don't get greedy and drop the prices as low as, well, for example, $50
to steal away business (not that I wouldn't buy one or 20 at that price :liar: ) Further considering your side, I am definitely one to protest the price of rare T's. Although I think P. metallicas are fair now, I payed over $300 with shipping for mine as a 1.75" sling. There are probably a lot of homeless, broke, needy, etc people out there who would be delighted to murder somebody like me who payed that much for a SPIDER. So yes, I stand for selling them for what they are worth, and at the same time, sell them for what is the most fair. Everyone deserves a chance to get there hands on one for a fair deal, but also people, think of the consequences (in terms of businesses that provide for our hobby) if nearly EVERYONE had one.- Joined
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Just read that, and
Yeah I'm done ranting to, sorry
And hey I'm in the process of obtaining a male right now also, so wish me luck too I'm jealous
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i think some of the nicest, rare t's are the ones that aren't that colorful, and don't cost a fortune. take H villosella, for example. 30$ avg. per sling, if you can find them for sale, nice dark green coloring.
there is no "elite" in the T hobby. sure, someone might have more knowledge than someone else, but it's all knowledge that can be ascertained by anyone, who has the will to learn it. and plus, all these "indiana jones'" you speak of aren't really elite. no one in the T hobby is like bill gates, money coming out the arse. most of the people that have these "really rare sp" just have good connections. or, they happen to be in the right place at the right time. this hobby should be built on patience, trust, and dignity... not $ value, elitism, or competition. but that's just my stance.
that's just me rambling. completely ignore it...
edit: and ryan, good luck to you.
keep us updated! (like i really need to tell you to do that lol )I don't own any rare spiders, but:
It seems that certain rare species are collector's items because they are rare and people want the thrill of 'obtaining' them.
It works that way in any hobby. A coin collector doesn't care about a common nickel, but if that nickel was a 1905, wooden, buffalo backed nickel that Lincoln used to purchase popcorn that fateful night at the theater?
(Made up coin for effect, don't worry it probably doesn't exist)
Obviously as a good coin collector strives to find that odd coin, shouldn't a P Metallica be a T to strive to collect? What makes them so special if you could go to petco and buy one for 10 bucks?
I understand the whole expanding the hobby ideas, but what do you have to look forward to if everything is so widely available? Just because you may want one and can't get one, doesn't mean its a problem.
Try to enjoy the hobby for what it is: a hobby. Start with a cheap and available rose hair and move up as you gain experience. It's probably a good idea to keep the rare ones rare. It allows the keeper to gain experience prior to just buying a T because they like the color. The pokies require a considerable investment of time and experience. Just as your experience level rises so does your ability to obtain, handle, breed, and keep alive the more rare and desirable species.
Just my .02
Not aimed at anyone, just as a collector of various items.
It seems that certain rare species are collector's items because they are rare and people want the thrill of 'obtaining' them.
It works that way in any hobby. A coin collector doesn't care about a common nickel, but if that nickel was a 1905, wooden, buffalo backed nickel that Lincoln used to purchase popcorn that fateful night at the theater?
(Made up coin for effect, don't worry it probably doesn't exist)
Obviously as a good coin collector strives to find that odd coin, shouldn't a P Metallica be a T to strive to collect? What makes them so special if you could go to petco and buy one for 10 bucks?
I understand the whole expanding the hobby ideas, but what do you have to look forward to if everything is so widely available? Just because you may want one and can't get one, doesn't mean its a problem.
Try to enjoy the hobby for what it is: a hobby. Start with a cheap and available rose hair and move up as you gain experience. It's probably a good idea to keep the rare ones rare. It allows the keeper to gain experience prior to just buying a T because they like the color. The pokies require a considerable investment of time and experience. Just as your experience level rises so does your ability to obtain, handle, breed, and keep alive the more rare and desirable species.
Just my .02
Not aimed at anyone, just as a collector of various items.