Overrated and underrated tarantulas

ispectechular

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Over rated: Recently P. Metallica are a little over rated. I feel like OBT's are over rated. They are kind of ugly IMO and to me they are only wanted because of their nasty attitude. T. Seladonia is one that I do not understand the hype over.

Underrated:p. Cambridge, they are such awesome tarantulas to own!
 

StampFan

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Over rated: Recently P. Metallica are a little over rated. I feel like OBT's are over rated. They are kind of ugly IMO and to me they are only wanted because of their nasty attitude. T. Seladonia is one that I do not understand the hype over.

Underrated:p. Cambridge, they are such awesome tarantulas to own!
Any T that ends up on the cover of the British Tarantula Society Journal gets overhyped it seems. There's your T seladonia reason.
 

TeddyBearTarantula

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Pulchra are really fun to keep because they bulldoze the enclosure every day and make the weirdest dirt mounds, plus they eat really well and don't hide much.
Aren’t they really difficult to breed? I read that somewhere. There are plenty of slings about usually around the £25 mark for a 1-2cm sling, they are expensive but I assumed that was because of the the difficulty breeding, but practically every spider seller/shop in the uk has slings available so that may not be true. I was lucky as I purchased a 1cm sling for £15 from a really reputable source and when it arrived it was easily over an inch and it’s a great eater, and does daft things! I heard that finding a juvie/SA/A is practically impossible unless it’s through a private sale.

Basically any blue tarantula is immediately overrated by the hobby. Most become ridiculously expensive immediately. They are beautiful but they are just vastly overrated.

As for underrated species I would have to say Chilobrachys Fimbriatus. I'm sure people like them but I almost never hear any praise for them. Their patterns and coloration never ceases to amaze me. On top of that they are usually quite inexpensive.
I read a spider shop synopsis of these not long ago and they said that in their opinion c fimbriatus are the prettiest Chilobrachys.

over-rated:

LP, H. Mac, G. pulchra, C. lividius, OBT.

LP is overhyped by sellers exaggerrating what they are...all their best qualities are shared with hundreds of better looking species...same for their size.

Macs, OBTs and lividius excite people because if beautiful pics...which are better seen in pics than in person....all ghosts.

Pulchra are just over-hyped, period...cool, but IMO not as special as peoples irrational love...i can think of a dozen more striking black ts....And i could think of many Grammies i would rather have.

All are cool, just over-rated Imo.

Under-rated:

B. cabocla, B. vagans, N. incei, Tappies and all Thrixopelma sp., G. pulchripes.

Cabocla are just cool, beautiful as anything after a molt, great feeding response and growth, yet surprisingly unpopular.

Vagans are cheap and abundant, causing a lot to just gloss over them....one of the best looking black ts...great eaters and decent growth.

N. incei might be the most under-rated...no urticating hairs, not defensive, super fast...spectacular eaters, really one of the most enthusiastic eaters anywhere, and one of the heaviest webbers...and very beautiful.

Tappies just get no love, they should....they should also be more available than they are as they just arent bred enough.

Thrixopelma always seem to be an unknown by a lot, no one asks for or about them, so no one breeds or seems to regularly sell many of them....yet the whole genus is incredible.

G. pulchripes....glossed over by many like vagans...low cost and high availability...yet one of, if not the best starter species readily available in the hobby....a t everyone at every level should own.


Just like hundreds of others...not unique qualities.
B vagans are deffo underrated, they are beautiful T’s but slings go for like £3 in the uk or are usually given as freebies! I think people just pass them by because there are so many and so cheap.

For me, P. metallica is hugely overrated. Their prices have dropped significantly over the years, but I still don't get it even at their current price. They're a small pokie, and my girl was an absolute coward even as a subadult. Another one would be M. balfouri - fun if kept communally, but the most boring pet hole if kept singly.
P Metallica prices have fell dramatically it would seem. The video that Tarantulaguy1976 posted of his Metallica laying her eggs, he made some remark about each egg being worth $400 each and that was probably around 2009.

Overrated - N. chromatus. I am sorry but.. mine is the biggest whimp I own. Oh my lord. Cricket? No it must hide first. Then maybe eat. It's also really slow growing. Bleh.

Underrated - Ok this might just be me, but I don't really see a lot of y. diversipes on here. Mine is a pain in the bum to feed but lordy it's gorgeous.
I have a Y sooretama and she is a stunner!
 
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Tarantula155

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Great thread.

My jaw dropped that people have A. geniculata as overrated? No way! Best large T around IMO.

Overrated?
P. murinus - never see it, so unfortunate because theyre beautiful
G. pulchra - overpriced
L. parahybana - some sellers actually have slings @$20-$25 a pop LOL they arent worth any more than $10 and thats pushing it. Boring colors and the appetite is too hyped.



Underrated?
N. incei - speed demon, great appetite and color
A. geniculata - I think some of you forgot. White Knees are a starving tiger trapped in a tarantulas body. I swear the amount of times Ive dropped my tongs or jumped from them coming after me is quite the show.
T. vagans - beautiful adult colors, ferocious appetite, and have quite the variety of temperaments.
T. albopilosum - a great all around T, always out and about. Hardy, long lived, good eaters, and interesting personalities.
 

WolvesInSpaceMarines

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T. albopilosum - a great all around T, always out and about. Hardy, long lived, good eaters, and interesting personalities.
Even though mine's still a sling, I can already tell that he/she will have a unique personality. Whether it'll be unique "good" or unique "bad" remains to be seen lol. He/she is always re-arranging things near the burrow, opening and closing "viewing holes", and almost always hungry.
 

Colorado Ts

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over-rated:

LP, H. Mac, G. pulchra, C. lividius, OBT.

LP is overhyped by sellers exaggerrating what they are...all their best qualities are shared with hundreds of better looking species...same for their size.

Macs, OBTs and lividius excite people because of beautiful pics...which are better seen in pics than in person....all ghosts.

Pulchra are just over-hyped, period...cool, but IMO not as special as peoples irrational love...i can think of a dozen more striking black ts....And i could think of many Grammies i would rather have.

All are cool, just over-rated Imo.

Under-rated:

B. cabocla, B. vagans, N. incei, Tappies and all Thrixopelma sp., G. pulchripes.

Cabocla are just cool, beautiful as anything after a molt, great feeding response and growth, yet surprisingly unpopular.

Vagans are cheap and abundant, causing a lot to just gloss over them....one of the best looking black ts...great eaters and decent growth.

N. incei might be the most under-rated...no urticating hairs, not defensive, super fast...spectacular eaters, really one of the most enthusiastic eaters anywhere, and one of the heaviest webbers...and very beautiful.

Tappies just get no love, they should....they should also be more available than they are as they just arent bred enough.

Thrixopelma always seem to be an unknown by a lot, no one asks for or about them, so no one breeds or seems to regularly sell many of them....yet the whole genus is incredible.

G. pulchripes....glossed over by many like vagans...low cost and high availability...yet one of, if not the best starter species readily available in the hobby....a t everyone at every level should own.


Just like hundreds of others...not unique qualities.
Since 2018...have your opinions changed? Any updates?
 

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nce 2018...have your opinions changed? Any
Nope, those are all still over-rated...of those, the obt is the only one i would even take for free...but theyre still waaaaay over hyped even if i do like them...lividus, LP, and H. mac...i just dont get the hype, one is the plainest looking t there is and the other 2....well, if you cant say anything positive....

Lets just say, theyre the only 3 species ive ever raised that i just dont enjoy on any level...lol
 

Colorado Ts

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Nope, those are all still over-rated...of those, the obt is the only one i would even take for free...but theyre still waaaaay over hyped even if i do like them...lividus, LP, and H. mac...i just dont get the hype, one is the plainest looking t there is and the other 2....well, if you cant say anything positive....

Lets just say, theyre the only 3 species ive ever raised that i just dont enjoy on any level...lol
You make such reasonable sense.

Over Rated: Why is Grammostola pulchra so expensive? I love them and I will start a group of slings soon, but the cost just doesn't make sense. The market gets what the market gets; I just don't get it...

Under Rated: The entire genus of Phormictopus is under rated and overlooked. But with each passing month, I'm seeing interest brewing....so I'm guessing things will be a changing.
 

WolvesInSpaceMarines

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I know this is an old thread, but it seems quite active, so I'll add one. I must be honest and say that I'm still really new to the hobby, so these opinions aren't necessarily based on actual experience, just what I've seen so far on this board, YouTube, Reddit, etc.

Overrated:
-Most arboreal species, both NW and OW
-C. lividus,
-P. irminia and cambridgei--not really my cup of tea in terms of color,
-OBT

Underrated:
-N. tripeppi (spelling?)
-B. albiceps--I kind of get this one though. Mine is definitely my slowest grower. Molted once and went from 1/4" to 3/8" (not exact measurements, but seems pretty close)
-P. pulcher--these could actually be overrated, but I don't see them mentioned often.
-T. epicureanus--they may just be overshadowed by other Tliltocatl sp., but I quite like mine, and don't think he/she is too much for a noob to handle.
-Pretty much any "poofy" tarantula (although I've already mentioned two)--something about the 8-legged murder floofs is just appealing. Just have to keep your wits about you with some of them.

That's my list. Now I await my judgement! ;)

Nope, those are all still over-rated...of those, the obt is the only one i would even take for free...but theyre still waaaaay over hyped even if i do like them...lividus, LP, and H. mac...i just dont get the hype, one is the plainest looking t there is and the other 2....well, if you cant say anything positive....

Lets just say, theyre the only 3 species ive ever raised that i just dont enjoy on any level...lol
I get that. Those are probably four of the most common tarantulas that I've heard about on this board. There are others as well, but I feel like I see those very often.
 

The Grym Reaper

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Overrated

G. pulchra
P. cambridgei
Any blue OW
OBT
2 years on and all of these still stand, G. pulchra is still an overpriced colour-swapped rose hair, P. cambridgei still manage to be the only species I dislike out of a genus I love, and blue OWs/OBTs are still ridiculously overhyped.

I'm adding:

Overrated

C. cyaneopubescens - The most boring out of all the heavy webbers to keep, and they look much better as slings than they do as adults.
L. parahybana - Basically A. geniculata if you made it ugly and then proceeded to give it a less stable temperament and far worse hairs just to put the boot in.


Underrated
Nhandu carapoensis - All Nhandu are fun to keep but these always get overlooked because they aren't stripy or blonde..
 

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Overrated:

M. Balfouri, Ooooh look. A slightly blue communal tarantula. There are hundreds of other slightly blue T’s, what’s going on? The fact this now pretty well kept species still fetches £40 for a grown on sling baffles me

Almost any Pokie, sure they’re cool but have become the first thing to spring to mind when somebody mentions ‘O/W’. There are lots of other O/W’s that deserve attention.

Pamphobeteus and Xenesthis: Just because the males are pretty these don’t deserve to soak up all the attention, the females are pretty drab if you ask me.

Underrated:

Phormictopus: Pampho’s and Xenesthis steal the spotlight from this amazing genus, beautiful colours and one even specialises in EATING SNAILS!

All dwarfs: Just not talked about enough.

Orphnaecus sp: A really odd and intriguing genus, velvety with interesting colours and shapes.
 

WolvesInSpaceMarines

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Overrated:

M. Balfouri, Ooooh look. A slightly blue communal tarantula. There are hundreds of other slightly blue T’s, what’s going on? The fact this now pretty well kept species still fetches £40 for a grown on sling baffles me

Almost any Pokie, sure they’re cool but have become the first thing to spring to mind when somebody mentions ‘O/W’. There are lots of other O/W’s that deserve attention.

Pamphobeteus and Xenesthis: Just because the males are pretty these don’t deserve to soak up all the attention, the females are pretty drab if you ask me.

Underrated:

Phormictopus: Pampho’s and Xenesthis steal the spotlight from this amazing genus, beautiful colours and one even specialises in EATING SNAILS!

All dwarfs: Just not talked about enough.

Orphnaecus sp: A really odd and intriguing genus, velvety with interesting colours and shapes.
Agreed. Although I do like the m balfouri and wouldn’t mind doing a communal at some point, you hear about them all the time. And yeah dwarfs are sorely underrated. I kind of get it though. Short-lived and some species spend 90% of their time underground. But they’re so stinking cute! Who wouldn’t like them?
 

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OVERRATED

P. metallica - pretty, but there are more attractive blue Ts that aren't nearly as reclusive and are a fraction the price.

A. geniculata - Don't get me wrong, I adore mine, but Nhandu chromatus are almost a toe to toe match for A. geniculata and is the prettier of the two IMO.

C. lividus - sort of following suit with P. metallica and overrated for the same reasons. I'm not sure why these seem so popular with newbies who wanna jump in the deep end head first.


UNDERRATED

Most dwarf species - Besides E. sp. Red, most dwarfs seem to fly under the radar despite there being some real gems.

B. cabocla - A personal favorite that I'm seeing pop up a little more often than in the past, but still not much. Very unique looking T, and although mine are skittish, there's rarely a time I walk into my T closet and can't see them hanging out in the open. Look ragged as heck when in need of a molt, but fresh out of one, very few species compare.

B. vagans - Despite the Brachy genus being one of the most popular, I rarely see B. vagans getting the love it deserves. That velvet black could make a G. pulchra self conscious, and accented with those bright red hairs makes it a beautiful T. Great eaters, decently fast growth for a Brachy, and their temperaments can be pretty... interesting. :troll:
Referencing your B. vagans comment about their temperament being "pretty interesting" - what do you mean? Likes to kick hairs? Threat poses easily?
 

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M. Balfouri, Ooooh look. A slightly blue communal tarantula.
Colors is always debatable, but any tarantula with color has great appearance depending on the lighting you use or have. LED lights tend to get the most color appearance out of any tarantula of most lighting so far in my experience. And while I do agree that they're overrated, I disagree with the "slightly blue" idea.

Xenesthis: Just because the males are pretty these don’t deserve to soak up all the attention, the females are pretty drab if you ask me.
Males have very noticeable colors once they're adults, but females also have colors as well, but you need to have at least decent lighting to see it.

Female X. immanis
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Insects Glorify God

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Overrated: Species that fetch mega-bucks merely because they are few and far between, e.g., P. sp. “solaris”. I (subjectively I know) wouldn’t buy a T that looks like the arachnid version of “My Pretty Pony”, that could have a place as a decoration in a three year old girl’s bedroom.

Underrated: OBT. Almost every reference concerns its “attitude”, when if considered on its overall merits, e.g., hardy, gorgeous, heavy webber, ease of care, out often, crazy good eater, inexpensive, etc., is a tremendous overall specimen.
Form your experience, is the OBT out all of the time or mostly just as an adult?
 

Insects Glorify God

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Why dont more people have a C. Fimbriatus? I don't understand it. They're orange and purple, have the tiger stripes on their abdomens and mine is pretty much always hanging out right outside of her burrow. They're not even priced that badly either. Just look at this girl! (Also more people please get them so it'll be easier for me to find a male).
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I agree. That is a pretty T!
 

Royalty

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UNDERRATED:
I think the p.rufilata is an under-rated pokie. p.metallica always seems to "outshine" the pokies.
LPs I think may be overlooked sometimes as well since they are cheap so sometimes overlooked. I overlooked it until I got my freebies. They are tiny slings but I started to adore them.
Fossorials or other species that are not seen as much. The moments may be fewer and fleeting but it really makes me appreciate when I do see them. I would nto recomend a fossorial to a beginner since they seem to panick more if they have not seen their spider in a few days and might be tempted to dig it up.

OVERRATED:
I really can not think of any. I love them all to some degree. The p.metallica might be the most overrated of the pokies but it is still a brilliant spider.

OBTS are perhaps overrated, but I can't get over how cute their faces are! I know there are other orange spiders but this one just makes me feel happy. They remind me of orange tabbies...like Garfield (on a Monday?)
 
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