Neoholothele incei as a beginner tarantula

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I have a opportunity to get a neoholothele incei and I have a LP, GBB, lasiodorides striatus slings and a adult T. albopilosum. I was wondering If it is a good idea as a begginer tarantula or if I should wait a bit.
 

arachnidgill

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N. incei aren't the best choice for a beginner but far from the worst IME. They are a small New World species that lacks urticating hairs, they have a reputation for being quite fast. I have two females I raised from slings and I haven't seen either move too quick but individuals can vary. Seeing as most of your T's are slings how long have you been keeping tarantulas?

If you do decide to get it, I keep them on a couple inches of slightly moist substrate in case they burrow (neither of mine ever did), a cork bark hide and lots of anchor points for webbing.

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Moebius

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Expect them to be quite a bit more bolty/zippy than your preexisting species; I've got a couple of gals who eventually became much less speed demons, but the slings and sub-adults (and males in particular) like to play "who's reflexes are superior? Just kidding, it's mine". I have plenty of OWs and fast NWs, and these younguns still manage to put me through my paces (at least the last sac's worth, oof, musta been born with coffee in their system, I swear).

I'm in the same boat as arachnidgill. Not the best, certainly not the worst. If anything they grow at a nice clip and get you a bit more used to skittish Ts and wrangling a catch cup. No urticating setae either is a plus. Just expect them to hit the "Ridiculous speed" button now and then and attempt to turn plaid. The other plus? They have a pretty good appetite, and despite being heavy webbing burrowers aren't too against being out and visible when waiting for munchies, which is nice for a dwarf. Don't expect much of a life span out of the males; they mature pretty quick.
 

Vanisher

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I wouldnt call them a beginner speicies, and would rather recommend other speicies. But since they are not specially defenssive, and do not posess strong venom i think a beginner should have little problems with them. The main thing that makes them less beginnerfriendly is that they are more fast and bolty than your typical G pulchra!
 

Tortuga

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I acquired my female juvenile two weeks ago and like yourself, I'm a beginner too. I figured I'd chime in and share what I've experienced so far. My rehousing went relatively smooth. She was defensive for a moment and gave me a threat pose when nudged with a brush, but eventually slowly went into her new enclosure without issue. She ate the next day and has been rearranging, digging and webbing since. No bolting in my limited experience with just one individual, but as @arachnidgill mentioned individuals may vary. I feel like beginners abilities and skittishness may vary as well.

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1st 48 hours of webbing, didn't start digging for about a week.
 
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viper69

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I have a opportunity to get a neoholothele incei and I have a LP, GBB, lasiodorides striatus slings and a adult T. albopilosum. I was wondering If it is a good idea as a begginer tarantula or if I should wait a bit.
Well you have fast species for slings as a beginner, so it doesn't matter.
 

Patherophis

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I have a opportunity to get a neoholothele incei and I have a LP, GBB, lasiodorides striatus slings and a adult T. albopilosum. I was wondering If it is a good idea as a begginer tarantula or if I should wait a bit.
It is good idea. Fast but harmless Ts such as Neoholothele or Tapinauchenius are ok for responsible beginner.
 

mack1855

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Wait...it was here a second ago!.I swear,i just blinked.:astonished:.
just a heads up.

I need to add,totally worth it!!!Awesome little spoods.
 
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Vanessa

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I would definitely consider them an intermediate species, but, like others have already said, you could do much worse.
My girl has never been defensive, but she is uber fast. Once they have their web palace built, they bolt for that. They make lots of entrances and exits all about. Until they're comfortable, I would be extra careful, though. That's when they might bolt out of the enclosure.
They are very underrated and I adore my girl. I don't see her that often, but when I do it is a real treat.
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Chris LXXIX

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I have a opportunity to get a neoholothele incei and I have a LP, GBB, lasiodorides striatus slings and a adult T. albopilosum. I was wondering If it is a good idea as a begginer tarantula or if I should wait a bit.
No. Those buggers are too fast and creepy just like 'The Crooked Man' is.

Grammostola rosea, on the other hand, makes the absolutely perfect Theraphosidae for you. Think, you have to do nothing. Nothing: The 'Garfield' of T's, basically. Plus, since they starve, no feeders wasted :pompous:

It's amazing the power of Grammostola rosea if you stop to think seriously about that, for a moment.
 

mack1855

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C,mon….look at @Vanessa,s pics. How could you not get one of those!Cute beyond words.
 

Arachnophoric

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Like others said, there are definitely better beginners, but considering your lineup I don't think you'd be getting in over your head, as long as you do your research on what to expect. Honestly think this is a very underrated species and would be quick to recommend it to a studious beginner or intermediate keeper. Quick and VERY skittish, but IME not defensive in the slightest. My male was pretty jumpy from the time I got him up to maturity, but in his ripe old age (6 months mature!) he's begun to chill out and only gets jumpy when I disturb his web to feed him. My female is surprisingly bold by comparison and doesn't dart around like crazy when I'm getting her enclosure out, but she also by default tends to spend her time in the sanctity of her web tunnels. The remaining of their offspring that I've kept behave similar to their dad and bolt for their webs and burrows at the slightest disturbance.

Here's momma Nugget eating a big superworm. This species is incredibly unique; on top of being among the handful of new world tarantulas that lack urticating setae, this particular species actually comes in two color forms - normal/olive and gold. Nugget here is the latter of the two. The gold color form, like albinism in other animals, acts as a simple recessive gene. Most people (myself included) seem to like the olive form more, but still pretty neat to see a solid gold spider, no? :smug:


And my handsome old man Minimus Ambus, looking very different and sleek after his ultimate molt.


Fast growers, my boy matured at roughly 2.5" right around 1 year after receiving him as a <1" sling. Dwarf species with my adult female maybe a touch over 3" fully stretched. Very good eaters, sometimes will even continue to eat while in premolt. Incredibly active webbers that create expansive tunnels and even burrows - an appropriately sized enclosure will end up having just about every surface blanketed white with webbing. Again, not defensive in the slightest, and I've never seen a single threat pose from this species. Not even sure I've ever heard of a bite report on them. The biggest thing you need to watch out for is indeed their speed - they're quick and bolty when they don't have a retreat to run to. I'd take the advice to tread carefully until they've made a web and/or burrow to hide in to heart, but thankfully these guys seem to settle in and acclimate to new setups really fast. Just make sure they have a generous amount of MOIST! substrate, a hide, décor that offers plenty of anchor points for webbing (fake plants do a great job of that), and lastly, a water dish. My only other warning would be that particularly as younger specimens, this species seems more prone to dessication/dehydration than other slings I've kept, and needs to be kept on moist (but not soaked) substrate. Do not let them go dry.
 

Thekla

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Like others said, there are definitely better beginners, but considering your lineup I don't think you'd be getting in over your head, as long as you do your research on what to expect. Honestly think this is a very underrated species and would be quick to recommend it to a studious beginner or intermediate keeper. Quick and VERY skittish, but IME not defensive in the slightest. My male was pretty jumpy from the time I got him up to maturity, but in his ripe old age (6 months mature!) he's begun to chill out and only gets jumpy when I disturb his web to feed him. My female is surprisingly bold by comparison and doesn't dart around like crazy when I'm getting her enclosure out, but she also by default tends to spend her time in the sanctity of her web tunnels. The remaining of their offspring that I've kept behave similar to their dad and bolt for their webs and burrows at the slightest disturbance.

Here's momma Nugget eating a big superworm. This species is incredibly unique; on top of being among the handful of new world tarantulas that lack urticating setae, this particular species actually comes in two color forms - normal/olive and gold. Nugget here is the latter of the two. The gold color form, like albinism in other animals, acts as a simple recessive gene. Most people (myself included) seem to like the olive form more, but still pretty neat to see a solid gold spider, no? :smug:


And my handsome old man Minimus Ambus, looking very different and sleek after his ultimate molt.


Fast growers, my boy matured at roughly 2.5" right around 1 year after receiving him as a <1" sling. Dwarf species with my adult female maybe a touch over 3" fully stretched. Very good eaters, sometimes will even continue to eat while in premolt. Incredibly active webbers that create expansive tunnels and even burrows - an appropriately sized enclosure will end up having just about every surface blanketed white with webbing. Again, not defensive in the slightest, and I've never seen a single threat pose from this species. Not even sure I've ever heard of a bite report on them. The biggest thing you need to watch out for is indeed their speed - they're quick and bolty when they don't have a retreat to run to. I'd take the advice to tread carefully until they've made a web and/or burrow to hide in to heart, but thankfully these guys seem to settle in and acclimate to new setups really fast. Just make sure they have a generous amount of MOIST! substrate, a hide, décor that offers plenty of anchor points for webbing (fake plants do a great job of that), and lastly, a water dish. My only other warning would be that particularly as younger specimens, this species seems more prone to dessication/dehydration than other slings I've kept, and needs to be kept on moist (but not soaked) substrate. Do not let them go dry.
There's nothing I could or would add but to post a picture of my AF N. incei gold, actually called Nugget as well. :smug:

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The Grym Reaper

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They're more of an intermediate species but you already have a GBB (fast/skittish) so I don't see the problem.

They're much more interesting to keep than a GBB as well, they'll completely fill an enclosure with webbing in no time at all and their feeding response is off the chain.

 

GailC

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I love incei. I bred them a few years back, even tried my hand at a communal when my female double clutched. I recently got a gold sling, lovely little thing.
I never had any issue with mine. No threats, no bolting from cages. If disturbed, they would just bolt for their extensive webbing.
I'd recommend them before a gbb or lp.
 
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