Important Conservation Efforts...

[Tenevanica]

There are, but not many are geared towards the study of spiders. I mean it's very possible to do it, but it requires a larger effort on the part of the student. Off topic, but where do you go to school if I may ask?

University of Colorado Boulder

 

[antinous]

University of Colorado Boulder

Sweet, I actually have some friends going there (or used to?) for biology/animal science related things haha. /sorry for the hijack

 

[Tenevanica]

Sweet, I actually have some friends going there (or used to?) for biology/animal science related things haha. /sorry for the hijack

No problem. I'm happy to share, and I know the mods won't mind an off topic post or two as long as we keep going in generally the right direction.

 

[Tarantulaguy2001]

And let me just add, they are not all 'nasty deforesters'. Sure there are some people that are illegal loggers, but others are just trying to provide for their families. We all would be doing the same if the area we live in currently wasn't already cleared away. You're not going to be able to reforest a native habitat while there are people living there still. You're going to need millions of dollars for relocation fees at least, and then comes the question of where are the people going to go? I'm not against conservation, hell that's what I'm majoring in, but you have to be logical with these things. Take your drive/love of conservation and focus them in a more plausible area.

Like what, relocating the tarantulas? Sounds like a good idea, but that would take a long time. Plus, we would need to search for an area with the PERFECT conditions for them, otherwise they wouldn't survive. If you have suggestions, reply asap. We may even need to discuss this matter on my email account if necessary . I do like the idea of relocating the tarantulas, though. Btw it's ok I know how you feel. I'm honestly very frustrated that this stuff happened in the first place.

 

[Tarantulaguy2001]

I'm a junior majoring in biology with a focus in entomology. There are very few true arachnolgists. Most people who study arachnids would describe themselves as "entomologists who study arachnids" and nearly all of them have entomology degrees. There are a lot of great entomology programs, as it is a very important field.

That's good! Its ok to know this stuff, just now is the time we need the professionals who know this like you. You are welcome to join. You already know where my email link is.

 

[antinous]

Like what, relocating the tarantulas? Sounds like a good idea, but that would take a long time. Plus, we would need to search for an area with the PERFECT conditions for them, otherwise they wouldn't survive. If you have suggestions, reply asap. We may even need to discuss this matter on my email account if necessary . I do like the idea of relocating the tarantulas, though. Btw it's ok I know how you feel. I'm honestly very frustrated that this stuff happened in the first place.

Relocating the tarantulas would be a no-go either. If they're not doing well in their home range, moving them to a new, foreign area (where they're considered invasive) would be even worse. Listen, unless you have millions of dollars (and even then it's highly unlikely it'll work), it's not going to happen. The best we can do is build up a healthy population in captivity so they don't go extinct forever.

 

[Tarantulaguy2001]

No problem. I'm happy to share, and I know the mods won't mind an off topic post or two as long as we keep going in generally the right direction.

I don't mind, as long as it helps.

 

[Tarantulaguy2001]

Relocating the tarantulas would be a no-go either. If they're not doing well in their home range, moving them to a new, foreign area (where they're considered invasive) would be even worse. Listen, unless you have millions of dollars (and even then it's highly unlikely it'll work), it's not going to happen. The best we can do is build up a healthy population in captivity so they don't go extinct forever.

I don't have to be ritch. You just have to have a ton of supporters. Btw I did not mean to be rude I wish I could express feeling. I did not mean to upset you in any ways whatsoever.

 

[antinous]

I don't have to be ritch. You just have to have a ton of supporters. Btw I did not mean to be rude I wish I could express feeling. I did not mean to upset you in any ways whatsoever.

You don't have to be rich, but it would help speed the EXTRAORDINARILY slow process of what you wish to do (even if it was plausible). These things don't happen like that, permits are needed, and that can take months, even years. Supporters can't work magic, no matter how much money they donate. You're not being rude, I'm just trying to give you a realistic opinion.

 

[EulersK]

And here I said that I was going to stay out of it

I'm going to be frank here. Spending all of that money and time on relocating/conserving bugs is a massive waste of resources. I love tarantulas and I love this hobby, but we need to be realistic here. You're talking about spending millions on bugs. Not even in research - just in conservation. You don't think that money could be spend better elsewhere? Maybe we need to address the population crisis before worrying about a bunch of spiders.

And now I stand with arms open ready for the flames

 

[Tarantulaguy2001]

Relocating the tarantulas would be a no-go either. If they're not doing well in their home range, moving them to a new, foreign area (where they're considered invasive) would be even worse. Listen, unless you have millions of dollars (and even then it's highly unlikely it'll work), it's not going to happen. The best we can do is build up a healthy population in captivity so they don't go extinct forever.

It would be nice if we could stop deforestation. Logging is not cool in native habitats where endangered species live. I totally agree with you, but I disagree at the same times. I get what you are saying. I am doing my best at what is right. I hope you can find it in your heart (not to be mean) to reason optimistically. U am trying to be optimistic because my depression is pretty annoying and it makes me a pessimist. Please try optimisim too, I mean, there is a better good outcome in this sort of thing.

 

[Tarantulaguy2001]

You don't have to be rich, but it would help speed the EXTRAORDINARILY slow process of what you wish to do (even if it was plausible). These things don't happen like that, permits are needed, and that can take months, even years. Supporters can't work magic, no matter how much money they donate. You're not being rude, I'm just trying to give you a realistic opinion.

I know the reality. I'm telling the benefits. I am trying my best to make my ( and other people's) dreams come true.

 

[Tarantulaguy2001]

It would be nice if we could stop deforestation. Logging is not cool in native habitats where endangered species live. I totally agree with you, but I disagree at the same times. I get what you are saying. I am doing my best at what is right. I hope you can find it in your heart (not to be mean) to reason optimistically. U am trying to be optimistic because my depression is pretty annoying and it makes me a pessimist. Please try optimisim too, I mean, there is a better good outcome in this sort of thing.

I am not u am sorry :/

 

[antinous]

It would be nice if we could stop deforestation. Logging is not cool in native habitats where endangered species live. I totally agree with you, but I disagree at the same times. I get what you are saying. I am doing my best at what is right. I hope you can find it in your heart (not to be mean) to reason optimistically. U am trying to be optimistic because my depression is pretty annoying and it makes me a pessimist. Please try optimisim too, I mean, there is a better good outcome in this sort of thing.

It's not possible. Especially not in India, there's too many people. I am optimistic, hence why I'm working in the field, but there isn't a happy outcome for P. metallica in the wild.

 

[EulersK]

It would be nice if we could stop deforestation. Logging is not cool in native habitats where endangered species live. I totally agree with you, but I disagree at the same times. I get what you are saying. I am doing my best at what is right. I hope you can find it in your heart (not to be mean) to reason optimistically. U am trying to be optimistic because my depression is pretty annoying and it makes me a pessimist. Please try optimisim too, I mean, there is a better good outcome in this sort of thing.

Unfortunately, optimism doesn't always translate to realism.

 

[antinous]

When working in the conservation field, expect to have the majority of things not go the way you want. It's sad, it really is, but it's what it is. Why spend so much money on an animal when you know that they're doomed in wild when you can spend that money on another species that is more likely to prosper with our help?

 

[Tarantulaguy2001]

It's not possible. Especially not in India, there's too many people. I am optimistic, hence why I'm working in the field, but there isn't a happy outcome for P. metallica in the wild.

Why be so... Um... Not optimistic? I am hopeful that these dudes will make it. I'm pretty sure they will. We just have to get off our heinies and try! If we do not try, YeS they will SURELY go extinct. So please help me out. My dreams don't need to die until p. Metallica dies.

 

[Tarantulaguy2001]

When working in the conservation field, expect to have the majority of things not go the way you want. It's sad, it really is, but it's what it is. Why spend so much money on an animal when you know that they're doomed in wild when you can spend that money on another species that is more likely to prosper with our help?

They will not die unless we do not get off our you-know-what's and actually try to save them. My dreams will not die unless all the p. Metallicas die.

 

[antinous]

Why be so... Um... Not optimistic? I am hopeful that these dudes will make it. I'm pretty sure they will. We just have to get off our heinies and try! If we do not try, YeS they will SURELY go extinct. So please help me out. My dreams don't need to die until p. Metallica dies.

I'm not being pessimistic if that's what you mean, I'm being realistic. I know how upset you are, trust me, I'm just being realistic.

 

[Tenevanica]

It's not possible. Especially not in India, there's too many people. I am optimistic, hence why I'm working in the field, but there isn't a happy outcome for P. metallica in the wild.

I hate to agree with this post, but it's true. P. metallica is doomed to go extinct in the wild. That's why breeding this species is of the upmost importance.

I've said it three times now, and I don't want to come off as nagging, but I think the best course of action is to find a simple population count. A Lincoln Peterson, what I've been referring to, is a simple way to get an estimate of the number of individuals of a species in a particular area. We can get an idea of how many P. metallica are left, and that's an important thing to know before we even think of saving the wild population.

I'll join the email group, but not to support the original idea. Funding a simple mark recapture experiment is a reasonable goal. Saving the wild population is not.