Dwarf Tarantula ID thread

[josh_r]

Here is one of my favs

And another favorite

JOsh

 

[kylestl]

Not a dwarf aphono but still I love this pic. My new c elegans next to a dime

 

[Great Basin Ben]

All of the following photos, are by permission from, and thanks to Josh r.

My ALL TIME FAVORITE DWARF; Aphonopelma sp. "hualapai"

Aphonopelma paloma

and Aphonopelma mojave

 

[josh_r]

Ben, we will have to get together one of these days and do some dwarf hunting. I am curious about the locality you brought up. Keep me posted as to what you find. May be a range extension.

 

[Great Basin Ben]

latest update for the list

Confirmed TRUE Dwarfs so far:
-Aphonopelma paloma
-Aphonopelma mojave
-Aphonopelma joshua
-Aphonopelma sp. "hualapai", sold also as sp. "paramogoli"

-Cyriocosmus elegans
-Cyriocosmus ritae
-Cyriocosmus perezmilesi
-Cyriocosmus leetzi
-Cyriocosmus bertae

-Holothele inceisize? 3 " maxish from what I gather
-Heterothele villosellasize? 3 " maxish from what I gather
-Ami yupanqui VERY SMALL!!!
http://www.kenthebugguy.com/images/Ami_Yupanquii.jpg
- Yamia sp. "Koh Samui"
http://www.tarantulacanada.ca/gallery/images/983.jpg
- Cyrtopholis flavostriata "Virgin Island Pygmy" (at 2 inches average, A Dwarf for sure)
http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/gallery/displayimage.php?imageid=1636
- Phlogiellus baeri "Phillippean Dwarf" (again, at approx. 2 inches full grown, a LOT more the kind of DWARF that we're looking for here, other than those that are just, "smaller Tarantulas")
http://arachnoboards.com/ab/gallery/displayimage.php?imageid=1515

- Metriopelma species
http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/showthread.php?t=40727
- Metriopelma familiare (Much the same in size and stature as that of a Dwarf Aphonopelma. Color is subdued, and urticating patch very prominant.)
- Metriopelma zebratum (This Costa Rican Dwarf, looks much akin to those of the Cyriocosmus genus.)

- Euathlus sp. Red flame. (a robust 3 inch spider, and maybe not 100% dwarf, but HAD TO BE MENTIONED!)
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q237/Jerm357/3185372102_6c63f1be72_o.jpg

PLEASE KEEP THEM COMING FOLKS!!!

 

[josh_r]

- Euathlus sp. Red flame. (a robust 3 inch spider, and maybe not 100% dwarf, but HAD TO BE MENTIONED!)
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q237/Jerm357/3185372102_6c63f1be72_o.jpg

PLEASE KEEP THEM COMING FOLKS!!!

My female is very much an adult and she is no bigger than a paloma. She can't be any bigger than 2 inches. I have heard similar things from friends who have bred these. As far as i know, they stay pretty small. I could be wrong though

 

[Chris_Skeleton]

I believe I read somewhere that P. baeri and Yamia sp. "Koh Samui" are the same spider. I don't know if that is accurate or not, you'll have to research it.

 

[JOHN 3:16]

Here is my juvenile Aphonopelma joshua at one inch (1")
View attachment 88187

 

[josh_r]

Here is my juvenile Aphonopelma joshua at one inch (1")
View attachment 88187

John, if you don't mind me asking, where did you get your joshua??? I question its ID. I saw about 8 A. joshua, in person, collected by Brent Hendrixson and this is not the same spider.

Here is a link to a great pic of joshua. I believe this was actually one of the spiders Brent had collected.
http://www.8legs2fangs.com/Site/Aphonopelma.html#16

 

[JOHN 3:16]

Hello Josh r: Thanks for the web site. My A. joshua look like the one pictured on the site. I misplaced my camera charger. When I find it, I will take a updated picture of her.

 

[captmarga]

Here is my little H. incei, Cookie Monster. I just recently got her, so her history with me is all new. She comes out of her burrow quite readily when I open the top to feed her. She will take her cricket, and sit there for quite a while eating on it. I love her!

Marga

 

[josh_r]

Hello Josh r: Thanks for the web site. My A. joshua look like the one pictured on the site. I misplaced my camera charger. When I find it, I will take a updated picture of her.

Your spider doesnt look like the one pictured to a trained eye. If it truely IS joshua, it will have scopulae on the 5th tarsi and metatarsi split by setae. If your spider does not have this, it is not joshua and I bet it does not have this. Do you know where it came from?

 

[Great Basin Ben]

Marga,

I LOVE the shot of the H. incei!!! I've been DREAMING about a communal set -up of these in a 10 gallon aquarium. Yours has a VERY BEAUTIFUL GOLD color to it! Congratulations!

 

[JOHN 3:16]

Your spider doesnt look like the one pictured to a trained eye. If it truely IS joshua, it will have scopulae on the 5th tarsi and metatarsi split by setae. If your spider does not have this, it is not joshua and I bet it does not have this. Do you know where it came from?

Josh r, I don't know where it come from, but I do know who it come from. I purchased the A. joshua(?) from Rep. and Reefs. I received it on 08/11/09.
It was advertised here in the classified. I don't have the taxi on this specie. Maybe you are able to get the info from Rep. and Reefs of the location she come from. She have molted several times in my care. The next molt, I will check it out to verify the taxonomy. Where may I find this information?

 

[Chris_Skeleton]

Here is my Paraphysa sp. "Chilean Tiger"

Maybe 2" tops

 

[BrettG]

Josh r, I don't know where it come from, but I do know who it come from. I purchased the A. joshua(?) from Rep. and Reefs. I received it on 08/11/09.
It was advertised here in the classified. I don't have the taxi on this specie. Maybe you are able to get the info from Rep. and Reefs of the location she come from. She have molted several times in my care. The next molt, I will check it out to verify the taxonomy. Where may I find this information?

Reptiles and Reefs as in Jared?I can ask him the next time I stop in his place if you would like....Odds are Wayne(southwestinverts) down here caught it so he would probably be the man to talk too...

 

[JOHN 3:16]

Philippine Dwarf (Phlogiellus baeri) One inch (1"), but feisty.

 

[captmarga]

Here's another, perhaps better photo of Cookie Monster. The one with the nickel is wonderful for size comparison, but I think this one shows her color a little better.

Marga

 

[josh_r]

Josh r, I don't know where it come from, but I do know who it come from. I purchased the A. joshua(?) from Rep. and Reefs. I received it on 08/11/09.
It was advertised here in the classified. I don't have the taxi on this specie. Maybe you are able to get the info from Rep. and Reefs of the location she come from. She have molted several times in my care. The next molt, I will check it out to verify the taxonomy. Where may I find this information?

I am positive that spider is not joshua. Especially if it is several molts out in your care. I think your spider is more along the lines of aphonopelma sp. 'hualapai' or what they call the 'eastern' mojave complex.... I really hate this whole taxonomy mess with these guys. I dont know what to call anything anymore. Joshua molts out with a smoky gray carapace and is a more lanky spider. Look at the foot pads of the last pair of legs or if you can, take a picture and post them and we will see if it's scopulae are divided.

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Reptiles and Reefs as in Jared?I can ask him the next time I stop in his place if you would like....Odds are Wayne(southwestinverts) down here caught it so he would probably be the man to talk too...

That is the sad thing about it.... Wayne is not going to tell you where it came from. So you may never know. If it was joshua, the locality would be the joshua tree nat'l monument. I have seen both joshua and mojave from this area and have kept them. You spider does not match either.

 

[KnightinGale]

Hello!

Can't really contribute anything as I don't keep dwarfs (yet), but had to say I'm really enjoying reading this thread and looking at all the pictures. Nice job keeping on it, Ben, when things started out slowly. But now things are rolling and I'm lovin' it!