Theraphosinae sp Colombia

[Sarkhan42]

While the discovery of this species was a little while ago, now that Tarantula Canada has listings and photos of the slings, I noticed something that I figured should result in some discussion. The slings look remarkably like Chromatopelma slings, which up until now were completely unique. Is this coincidence, or might we for the first time have to consider a second species in the genus?

 

[viper69]

While the discovery of this species was a little while ago, now that Tarantula Canada has listings and photos of the slings, I noticed something that I figured should result in some discussion. The slings look remarkably like Chromatopelma slings, which up until now were completely unique. Is this coincidence, or might we for the first time have to consider a second species in the genus?

No, there are tons of slings that look the same.

Cladistics relies on more than macro looks at a single developmental time point. If I was an arachnologist I would not invest my time into your hypothesis based on that 1 criteria.

Also you have to consider that the adults of both genders have zero similarity to GBBs.

Look at the the mini-GBB, the adults highly resemble GBBs from a gross macro-view, yet they are not the same genus.

 

[Philth]

There's post all over Facebook today calling it a Chromatopelma sp. I don't see why it wouldn't be. Where does Tarantulas Canada have it listed ? I don't see it on their price list.

Later, Tom

 

[viper69]

There's post all over Facebook today calling it a Chromatopelma sp. I don't see why it wouldn't be. Where does Tarantulas Canada have it listed ? I don't see it on their price list.

Later, Tom

Why are they calling it Chromatpelma sp? Because the slings look like GBBs? That's just not smart at all, it's irresponsible. That's one way how Ts get setup to be called something it may not be, with a name entrenched in the hobby etc etc before scientists have a chance to examine it.

People are so stupid.

 

[Sarkhan42]

No, there are tons of slings that look the same.

Cladistics relies on more than macro looks at a single developmental time point. If I was an arachnologist I would not invest my time into your hypothesis based on that 1 criteria.

Also you have to consider that the adults of both genders have zero similarity to GBBs.

Look at the the mini-GBB, the adults highly resemble GBBs from a gross macro-view, yet they are not the same genus.

I definitely agree with what you've said to a general extent, my post was more to get a discussion going on wether or not anyone had further information, as what I gleaned was clearly pretty limited. And while yes, many slings look the same, the unique appearance of Chromatopelma slings isn't something I personally had seen in any other genus, which is what sparked a little curiosity. I simply don't have enough to go off of to make any serious statements, just two stages of development which I agree isn't enough. If I were to look into this seriously I would definitely want to have specimens of both species in various stages of development. that being said, I think the fact that their adults share little coloration as opposed to the "mini" GBBs, the genus escapes me, isn't necessarily a point against them being related either. All in all I definitely agree more is needed, and I'm hoping someone on here can bring anything else to the table.

 

[viper69]

There's post all over Facebook today calling it a Chromatopelma sp. I don't see why it wouldn't be. Where does Tarantulas Canada have it listed ? I don't see it on their price list.

Later, Tom

Martin has a bunch of pictures of AFs, and mature male/s. too.

 

[viper69]

my post was more to get a discussion going

Succeeded!

Chromatopelma slings isn't something I personally had seen in any other genus

Agreed, very unique, until the mini-GBB came along! Another thing unrelated, the mini-GBB does not have urticating setae.

 

[Sarkhan42]

Why are they calling it Chromatpelma sp? Because the slings look like GBBs? That's just not smart at all, it's irresponsible. That's one way how Ts get setup to be called something it may not be, with a name entrenched in the hobby etc etc before scientists have a chance to examine it.

People are so stupid.

I haven't seen anyone actually calling them Chromatopelma, thankfully, but I saw one post asking for information on the species which prompted my brief look and post.

 

[viper69]

I haven't seen anyone actually calling them Chromatopelma, thankfully, but I saw one post asking for information on the species which prompted my brief look and post.

My GBB never looked like this T sp Columbia sling http://www.tarantulacanada.ca/pic.php?active=info&p=T sp. Colombia S

 

[Sarkhan42]

My GBB never looked like this T sp Columbia sling http://www.tarantulacanada.ca/pic.php?active=info&p=T sp. Colombia S

Well then, that's not anything like I had seen- sounds like I need to go back and call some people out. The post I had seen showed photos of the adults, and then of slings that did in fact look like Chromatopelma, with a Link to tarantula Canada. Egg on my face, that's what I get for not double checking before posting.

 

[Sarkhan42]

Edit=nevermind.

 

[Philth]

Why are they calling it Chromatpelma sp? Because the slings look like GBBs?
People are so stupid.

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck .....

My GBB never looked like this T sp Columbia sling http://www.tarantulacanada.ca/pic.php?active=info&p=T sp. Colombia S

That's because we are not talking about that spider, see this one http://www.tarantulacanada.ca/pic.php?active=info&p=Tnae sp1 F

Well then, that's not anything like I had seen- sounds like I need to go back and call some people out. The post I had seen showed photos of the adults, and then of slings that did in fact look like Chromatopelma, with a Link to tarantula Canada. Egg on my face, that's what I get for not double checking before posting.

Sounds like someone is knowingly spreading false info and it's working

Settle down lol....

Later, Tom

 

[Sarkhan42]

Edit=beat me to it Tom.

 

[viper69]

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck .....



That's because we are not talking about that spider, see this one http://www.tarantulacanada.ca/pic.php?active=info&p=Tnae sp1 F



Settle down lol....

Later, Tom

I know, my point is Martin has them all sp Columbia for obvious reasons. Point is, no one knows what they are, they aren't ducks, YET or at all perhaps

People are just stupid.

 

[viper69]

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck .....



That's because we are not talking about that spider, see this one http://www.tarantulacanada.ca/pic.php?active=info&p=Tnae sp1 F



Settle down lol....

Later, Tom

That one resembles more of a H. sp. Columbia than a GBB =)

 

[Philth]

I know, my point is Martin has them all sp Columbia for obvious reasons.

Ummm, because they are from Colombia

Later, Tom

 

[viper69]

Ummm, because they are from Colombia

Later, Tom

Geez Tom, hence the words "for obvious reasons"

I guess it wasn't that obvious

 

[Philth]

That one resembles more of a H. sp. Columbia than a GBB =)

To you maybe, but its slings are a dead ringer for Chromatopelma

Geez Tom, hence the words "for obvious reasons"

I guess it wasn't that obvious

I'm not sure if I'm following your point You're argument is that this spider doesn't look like Chromatolpelma, and that's because you weren't looking at the right spider lol.

 

[Philth]

Agreed, very unique, until the mini-GBB came along! Another thing unrelated, the mini-GBB does not have urticating setae.

What the hell is a mini-GBB ?

Later, Tom

 

[viper69]

To you maybe, but its slings are a dead ringer for Chromatopelma



I'm not sure if I'm following your point You're argument is that this spider doesn't look like Chromatolpelma, and that's because you weren't looking at the right spider lol.

I looked at all of the pics he Martin has, not true at all.

Anyway this is all moot, one physical trait at one time point..is worthless IMO.

Again, calling it something that we have no idea about is irresponsible.