Scorpion ID

[Philth]

This was sold to me as a Tunisian fat tail(androctonus australis) It dosent look like a fat tail to me. And realy dosent resemble my A.bicolor. Did the give me the wrong name? And if so what is it?

 

[Philth]

Heres another

 

[skinheaddave]

That is one FAT C.exilicauda. How much did you pay for it?

Cheers,
Dave

 

[XOskeletonRED]

Dave, I think that's actually two scorps...one which we all see and the one that she ate. *lol*

adios,
edw. =D

 

[skinheaddave]

XO,

Could be. That or a scorpion and a small deer ... maybe even a small troup of mimes.

Cheers,
Dave

 

[Kugellager]

That thing has GOT to be gravid...I don't think I have ever seen a scorp that plump before.

John
];')

 

[Philth]

This is a Arizona Bark scorp.? The dealer told me it came in a shipment from Egypt, again he told me it was a A. australis and said it was one of the most toxic Scorps around. Any way what ever it is should i give it a water dish, its small so im scared it will drown. And does it look like there is babies in there? He had them priced for 30 bucks, but gave it to me for ten cuase im a good customer.

 

[Kugellager]

I hate to say it but at first comparison I don't think it is even a buthid...tale a look at my V.spinigerus pic here:

http://www.invertcare.com/caresheets/scorpions/Vaejovis/Vaejovisspinigerus.html

Anyone have any other ideas?

John
];')

 

[Kugellager]

Can you get better and sharper pics of the telson...that would help a lot...close up of the head too...just don't get tagged.

John
];')

 

[skinheaddave]

I don't think the metasoma is right for a V.spinigerus. Not fat or ridged enough from what I can see on the pic. Plus, the fifth metasomal segment looks to be elongated -- pointing towards Centruroides.

Cheers,
Dave

 

[Philth]

hears another pic. Thats as close as im getting

 

[Philth]

ooppps

 

[neveragain]

now i am far from an expert, but it looks liek Androctonus amoreuxi to me.

Courtesy of www.invertepet.com:

 

[skinheaddave]

Okay .. that's a nice pic. Neither Centruroides or Vaejovis as far as I can tell. Those snub chela just scream Buthacus. Perhaps it is Buthacus ariencola? That would certainly fit in with it being found in Egypt.

Cheers,
Dave

 

[skinheaddave]

Neveragain,

Where did you get that pic. It doesn't look like A.amoreuxi to me. Check out this pic courtesy of the Scorpion Files. I would agree, however, that it does bear a striking resemblance. If I am right then they are both Buthacus sp. There is no way that they are Androctonus, a genus typified by their thick, highly faceted metasomas.

Cheers,
Dave

 

[neveragain]

i got it from invertepet.com i guess i forgot to credit the site. sorry.

 

[Philth]

Skinheadave

would you still think the scorp is gravid, now know its not a C. exilicauda? Thanks for the help as i am still inexperianced with Scorpion ID'ing

 

[neveragain]

now that i look back, i dont know what made me think it was an A. amoreuxi

 

[Reitz]

I have to agree with Dave, definitly looks like a Buthacus. It's got those dark median eyes, stubby little chela, and a nice light telson with a dark stinger. Also, the fifth segment on the metasoma is slighly elongated, like many Buthacus. And a perfect match would be B. arenicola, given 1) the location it was collected, 2) the relative slenderness (if that's a real word) of the chela, and 3) the similar coloration. Specifically in terms of coloration I'm looking at the faint dark patch that runs down the center of its mesosoma.

Any other thoughts?

 

[skinheaddave]

Originally posted by neveragain
now that i look back, i dont know what made me think it was an A. amoreuxi

Yeah, we all have moments like that.

Cheers,
Dave