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Hi,
thanks for your comments guys!
@ Gigus
Yep, it is big, haven´t seen such a big sized sac so far...
The lady anchored this thing indeed on some web lines, looks like some kind of holding-construct. Not too unusual to my experience, as i´ve seen this with nearly every other Phoneutria sac aswell.
@ MetalDragon_boy
Half way right, P. nigriventer has an incredible mortality, that´s definitily true for most accounts i´ve heard and self-experienced so far.
However, this is not in all cases true for the other species, take the actual "P. nigriventer" slings for an example, that are around in europe by now: they´re of the former "P. keyserlingi" species and are quite ok to raise. Not that easy, but with mortality around 50% i´m not gonna complain. Some other keepers i know of had even lower mortality rates till now, what more can one ask for?
P. fera, which originated from french-guyane and had been bred in germany in the late 90´s is another example: with this species, too, we experienced mortality around 50%, which is plain ok, if one considers the amount of slings per sac.
Another story are still the actual P. fera cf Oyapok: for now i take them as just as easy to raise, as Cupiennius spec., really no big deal. As long as one just keeps them humid, gives them plenty of food and room to molt, they just grow like crazy.
While this all may sound a bit optimistic, i have to point out, that if this sac should hatch, it´s nevertheless back to scratch-board: not all Phoneutria species are that hard to raise, however, nobody knows about this one...
If all plays out to my liking, i´ll hopefully have the chance to find out for myself.
@ Crotalus
Sure, i know that site! Damn right, indeed a good read about this genus, quite rare to find.
Yeah, the sacs produced, now it´s up top hatching.... I really hope that this one will turn out the "real deal", i´ve had enough of that fake sacs...
Will keep you updated.
@ Bile Drunk
Thanks!
Have to admit, the pure size of the sac gets me a bit nervous: i´m well aware, WHAT will come out of that, however, HOW MANY is a very interesting question....
Let me try the answer this way: to my very best knowledge, the highest amount of slings (that had been counted, of course) produced by a Phoneutria was 1303 (TRETZEL 1957)....
For the first sac of course, the follow up contained "only" some 800....
More than enough, i hope, for not only europe, if all works well.
Greetings,
Stefan
thanks for your comments guys!
@ Gigus
Yep, it is big, haven´t seen such a big sized sac so far...
The lady anchored this thing indeed on some web lines, looks like some kind of holding-construct. Not too unusual to my experience, as i´ve seen this with nearly every other Phoneutria sac aswell.
@ MetalDragon_boy
Half way right, P. nigriventer has an incredible mortality, that´s definitily true for most accounts i´ve heard and self-experienced so far.
However, this is not in all cases true for the other species, take the actual "P. nigriventer" slings for an example, that are around in europe by now: they´re of the former "P. keyserlingi" species and are quite ok to raise. Not that easy, but with mortality around 50% i´m not gonna complain. Some other keepers i know of had even lower mortality rates till now, what more can one ask for?
P. fera, which originated from french-guyane and had been bred in germany in the late 90´s is another example: with this species, too, we experienced mortality around 50%, which is plain ok, if one considers the amount of slings per sac.
Another story are still the actual P. fera cf Oyapok: for now i take them as just as easy to raise, as Cupiennius spec., really no big deal. As long as one just keeps them humid, gives them plenty of food and room to molt, they just grow like crazy.
While this all may sound a bit optimistic, i have to point out, that if this sac should hatch, it´s nevertheless back to scratch-board: not all Phoneutria species are that hard to raise, however, nobody knows about this one...
If all plays out to my liking, i´ll hopefully have the chance to find out for myself.
@ Crotalus
Sure, i know that site! Damn right, indeed a good read about this genus, quite rare to find.
Yeah, the sacs produced, now it´s up top hatching.... I really hope that this one will turn out the "real deal", i´ve had enough of that fake sacs...
Will keep you updated.
@ Bile Drunk
Thanks!
Have to admit, the pure size of the sac gets me a bit nervous: i´m well aware, WHAT will come out of that, however, HOW MANY is a very interesting question....
Let me try the answer this way: to my very best knowledge, the highest amount of slings (that had been counted, of course) produced by a Phoneutria was 1303 (TRETZEL 1957)....
For the first sac of course, the follow up contained "only" some 800....
More than enough, i hope, for not only europe, if all works well.
Greetings,
Stefan
