P.Murinus bite

[Andrea82]

Actually, IMO this proves only the opposite. Proves that (brutal venom potency aside, but this is a fact we know) 'OBT' aren't the brutal eight legged monsters always depicted in the "legend", during decades. They don't necessarily always 'bolt out' when the lid is open. They don't try to always 'threat pose' you when you open the top for feed/watering/maintenance.

Shampain88, obviously, asked for a bite. Replace what he did with the P.murinus with the average NW intermediate and we will end to see the same result (different pain, of course).

This video proves this, to me. And the fact that Shampain88 has my respect for not giving a damn about other keepers judging him

Not sure about this Chris. The P.murinus was threatposing so hard it was on its back...and it came up to meet the challenge...

@Shampain88
How long were you in the hospital?
Don't forget to add your experience to the bite reports section.
Other than this...I facepalmed so hard my head hurts. But it will be a useful post to refer to when a cocky newbie comes in with his first Theraphosid being a P.murinus.
How long ago was this?

 

[The Grym Reaper]

Everyone's like "You're stupid" or "You're crazy", and I'm just sat here like "Compared to a lot of stuff that Scots get up to, getting bitten by an OBT on purpose is actually pretty tame"

 

[Shampain88]

Just for my sick curiosity

How much painful was the 'mechanical damage' alone, caused by the Chelicerae? Enough for bleed, ok, but on a pain level?

Not too bad at all mate although it was on the tip of my finger if it'd been on the joint of said finger it could've been different...

 

[Shampain88]

Damn man, when you sent me the second video I thought you were bitten by accident. Jeezus.

You ended up in the Royal for the night? Or only few hours?

Would you be willing to test the 11 other variants of murinus? For scientific research of course..

Hehe I was keeping my intentions to myself but why not share it? It was/is a stupid idea but at least I've put a video out there showing it hurts like hell and to be careful but most importantly they're not gonna kill an adult lol... Kids,elderly and pets I'm not sure... Yeah I got out in the morning

 

[Shampain88]

Not sure about this Chris. The P.murinus was threatposing so hard it was on its back...and it came up to meet the challenge...

@Shampain88
How long were you in the hospital?
Don't forget to add your experience to the bite reports section.
Other than this...I facepalmed so hard my head hurts. But it will be a useful post to refer to when a cocky newbie comes in with his first Theraphosid being a P.murinus.
How long ago was this?

I was in for about 8 hours... It was over a month ago probably 7-8 weeks... I was going to put it in the bite section firstly but it says I have insufficient priv

 

[cold blood]

I was going to put it in the bite section firstly but it says I have insufficient priv

AB did a great revision last winter...but failed terribly when it comes to reviews and particularly bite reports.

The fact that it told you that is just terrible.....bite reports have become so needlessly complicated that I doubt more than one or to have even been posted in the past year....its become just a dead end. Bite reports should be part of the questions and discussions forum, this much is obvious. Here they can be added to, and will be read....as it sits now, AB might as well just delete the whole section.

 

[Chris LXXIX]

Well, no matter now a specific 'Bite Reports' section, IMO you can always add in this thread all the effects/pain/etc you had, in a detailed way

Not sure about this Chris. The P.murinus was threatposing so hard it was on its back...and it came up to meet the challenge...

Nah. I mean, yeah, they're defensive of course, as we know, but probably the KK was moved, the spider disturbed. Shampain88 touched "everything", the web etc it's absolutely normal. Every other OW's aside total complete pet holes (in such case, finger directly in the burrow-hole, lol) would had react that way.

I'm 100% certain of this and when you will end with one (ah ah, never say never my friend) you will agree with me that sometimes 'OBT' defensiveness was/is a bit 'hyped'

 

[grayzone]

Theres not a man in your family if you dont let it bite you on the face!!! record that and ill be impressed

 

[WoofSpider]

I think this was a terribly stupid and selfish thing to do. I don't particularly care about your well-being, but what if you had been allergic or had some kind of preexisting condition that caused you to be seriously injured or worse? And then if that made the media, how do you think that would impact the hobby? There may already be a record of the fact that your hospitalization was caused by a tarantula.

The only reason this hobby is able to exist is because it is mostly under the radar of lawmakers. Stunts like this have the potential to draw attention that we definitely do not want.

 

[Chris LXXIX]

I want to point out a detail where everyone able to recognize a "Masterstroke" can not disagree.

First video. The finger "deciding" what's the best way for end bitten, just like the moving finger of a children choosing a toy in the shop.

Starts at 0:27 to 0:31 more lor less.

Pure finest innocent "Masterstroke"

 

[Andrea82]

Nah. I mean, yeah, they're defensive of course, as we know, but probably the KK was moved, the spider disturbed. Shampain88 touched "everything", the web etc it's absolutely normal. Every other OW's aside total complete pet holes (in such case, finger directly in the burrow-hole, lol) would had react that way.

I'm 100% certain of this and when you will end with one (ah ah, never say never my friend) you will agree with me that sometimes 'OBT' defensiveness was/is a bit 'hyped'

The only way I will get a P.murinus is when it is a freebie. And maybe even then I send it back

 

[Nepenthe56]

I vote for a Phlogius sp. Goliath next. We need more data on Australian tarantulas! Also, Linothele megatheloides, although that's not a tarantula. I'm not sure how bad L. megatheloides would be, but as a funnel web spider, it seems to have a foreboding reputation. We need to know! For science!

 

[Shampain88]

I think this was a terribly stupid and selfish thing to do. I don't particularly care about your well-being, but what if you had been allergic or had some kind of preexisting condition that caused you to be seriously injured or worse? And then if that made the media, how do you think that would impact the hobby? There may already be a record of the fact that your hospitalization was caused by a tarantula.

The only reason this hobby is able to exist is because it is mostly under the radar of lawmakers. Stunts like this have the potential to draw attention that we definitely do not want.

I'm sorry but I disagree, pain was the only real consequence as far as the hospital was concerned, that's a good thing... There's been many people who've been bitten and went to hospital with no serious repercussions... Take Rob C for example... It's thoughts like yours that are bad for the hobby, scaremongering about allergic reactions when it should be common knowledge T venom does not have enough proteins to cause allergy... I appreciate your opinion though..

 

[Chris LXXIX]

The only way I will get a P.murinus is when it is a freebie. And maybe even then I send it back

Oh, lovely oh so lovely heresy

 

[Andrea82]

Oh, lovely oh so lovely heresy

What could be better than the Queen? I already have the highest of them all, so shut it Prophet!

 

[darkness975]

T venom does not have enough proteins to cause allergy

"Anaphylaxis can occur in response to almost any foreign substance.[17] Common triggers include venom from insect bites or stings, foods, and medication.[8][18] Foods are the most common trigger in children and young adults while medications and insect bites and stings are more common in older adults.[3]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaphylaxis

While Wikipedia is by no means a leading authority on (anything) medical conditions, it's a start.

 

[Ghost56]

Future research on my corpse? Nah haha I'm done... I might pinch grab a big Asian and get bit on the leg... lol no way am I ever getting tagged again... Why don't you take the OBT challenge?

Lmao, I kinda figured that was the case. I think I'll take a major pass on the OBT challenge .

 

[Andrea82]

I'm sorry but I disagree, pain was the only real consequence as far as the hospital was concerned, that's a good thing... There's been many people who've been bitten and went to hospital with no serious repercussions... Take Rob C for example... It's thoughts like yours that are bad for the hobby, scaremongering about allergic reactions when it should be common knowledge T venom does not have enough proteins to cause allergy... I appreciate your opinion though..

"Anaphylaxis can occur in response to almost any foreign substance.[17] Common triggers include venom from insect bites or stings, foods, and medication.[8][18] Foods are the most common trigger in children and young adults while medications and insect bites and stings are more common in older adults.[3]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaphylaxis

While Wikipedia is by no means a leading authority on (anything) medical conditions, it's a start.

There is no real conclusion, but here's the detailed version:
http://arachnoboards.com/threads/tarantula-venom-and-anaphylaxis.287185/

 

[Chris LXXIX]

What could be better than the Queen? I already have the highest of them all, so shut it Prophet!

Ah ah, ain't the Prophet my friend just the first, devoted, Goddess* humble Priest u_u

According to the Liturgy of the sacred book of "Hissing Revelations", a sacred Tomo found once by me during a trip in Eastern Africa dry Savannah, P.murinus is the Goddess* Prophet

* 0.1 Pelinobius muticus PBUH (Peace Be Upon Her)



P.S

"Why did you kill the Princess", oh hissing orange Prophet?

 

[darkness975]

The bite made my arm hurt and i wasn't even the one there.