Is this POECILOTHERIA ORNATA male or female??

[Talkenlate04]

See I was starting to think ventral sexing can be done. Hard but can be done. My Ornatas have very noticable ventral differences. Ill try to get pics to see what everone thinks.

 

[massmorels]

le sigh...

MassM had previously diagnosed it, but I was still hoping :wall:

who'd you buy that supposed "unsexed" ornata from?

 

[Needles666]

I got "him" from Reptist Exotics, on Tuesday

 

[ShadowBlade]

I still don't trust the folio method yet, I am agreeing more with David G on this topic. I will agree it's a good indication but not near 100%.

I'm not questioning David, or his experience. But there's many people with much more experience then him that firmly believe in this method, (but of course, the larger the size = proportionately more accurate). And it depends on everything from species, to sometimes perhaps locality.

There are always skeptics. There are plenty of well-known experienced people that do not believe in ventral sexing. Its up to every individual to believe what they want, I don't care either way. I won't sell a dorsally sexed pokie, but I will buy using it as a guide.

-Sean

 

[Arachnoheebs]

It's got to be a female, if it proves not to be a male.

Good luck!!!

Peace-
Mark

 

[TarantulaLV]

I'm not questioning David, or his experience. But there's many people with much more experience then him that firmly believe in this method, (but of course, the larger the size = proportionately more accurate). And it depends on everything from species, to sometimes perhaps locality.

-Sean

Agreed! I would however add one essential element here. Again those with the population for comparison are most likey to get it right long before a sexable exuvium is available or one can confidently call the ventral shot. There are clear differences between males and females early on in Poecilotheria. Just because you may not have looked at an exuvim at three or four inches does not mean it is unsexed!

BTW anyone need a MM Fasciata? He was unsexed prior to his maturing molt!!

 

[aunttigger]

But you bought it as an Unsexed spider right?

 

[TarantulaLV]

But you bought it as an Unsexed spider right?

That appears to be where it starts to become a problem.

 

[massmorels]

did you guys here that? sounds like someones credability just went down the pooper..

 

[Lorgakor]

the first is a male p metallica 2 moults from maturing the second picture is the same male mature , this is the same in all the pokie males and it can be seen in slings as small as 1inch , i will take pictures or a female the same size bare with me on taking pictures as i dont like dissturbing my my spiders

Cool, I'm looking forward to seeing the female shots for comparison. I'll have to post a pic of my recently moulted P. metallica, I'm leaning towards female but I'm still unsure as it tore the moult.
I don't suppose you have a larger shot of the male ventral?

 

[funnylori]

I am seeing how this works. I've read the entire thread about 3 times now. But, does this work as well for regalis? Looking at mine I would venture a guess at female, but what do you folks think? http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/gallery/showimage.php?i=4752&c=48

 

[TarantulaLV]

what do you folks think?

She is pretty.

This Ornata thread is interesting--check out this thread also: http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/showthread.php?t=65441
hmmm same genus different species.

 

[Becky]

This is a fab thread!!

While you're all at it..male or female? P. ornata

 

[TheDarkFinder]

I am seeing how this works. I've read the entire thread about 3 times now. But, does this work as well for regalis? Looking at mine I would venture a guess at female, but what do you folks think? http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/gallery/showimage.php?i=4752&c=48

No question female.

 

[TheDarkFinder]

This is a fab thread!!

While you're all at it..male or female? P. ornata

Going to go with female, but only at 60%.


For anyone that is going to do this please only direct dorsal shots with a flash.

Try not to underexpose/ overexpose.

The picture is not great but I say female.

 

[Becky]

I got a closer up one...?

I didnt take it to sex her from.. she just was posing nicely

Not a great pic either but hey... Every little helps!

 

[TheDarkFinder]

80% female how big is she?

 

[Becky]

15cm legspan last time i measured, which was about the time of these pics. She's preparing to moult at the moment

Out of interest mate, what makes u say 80% sure she's female?

 

[TheDarkFinder]

15cm legspan last time i measured, which was about the time of these pics. She's preparing to moult at the moment

Out of interest mate, what makes u say 80% sure she's female?

There is too much contrast. Males are just dim, females show alot of contrast in color. Yours shows a lot of contrast in the carapace, it could be the camera, or just a very rare male. I would say female.

 

[Becky]

Oh i see I've had her from a 1cm spiderling and would be dead chuffed if it's a "she"
The moult before this one she was really green and i thought male.. but that moult she went a bit more purple.