Is the Zoo Med Creatures Creature habitat good for tailless whip scorpions?

[Albireo Wulfbooper]

thank you once again

as for your own, the containers your keeping them in isn’t their permanent right? like they aren’t full grown yet?

The two on the right are adults (Phrynus barbadensis in the middle, Phrynus whitei on the right). Since amblypygi continue to moult throughout adulthood they’re never really done growing, but they’re not going to get a whole lot larger than they are right now.
The one on the left is a Damon diadema juvenile with plenty of growing left to do. She’ll be transferred to a larger enclosure after a couple more moults. The one in the small cup on top of the P. barbadensis enclosure is a baby Acanthophrynus coronatus - that one will be enormous in a year

 

[nicklovesTs]

The two on the right are adults (Phrynus barbadensis in the middle, Phrynus whitei on the right). Since amblypygi continue to moult throughout adulthood they’re never really done growing, but they’re not going to get a whole lot larger than they are right now.
The one on the left is a Damon diadema juvenile with plenty of growing left to do. She’ll be transferred to a larger enclosure after a couple more moults. The one in the small cup on top of the P. barbadensis enclosure is a baby Acanthophrynus coronatus - that one will be enormous in a year

thank you! as for the smaller ones do they have any different requirements then like the typical care sheet? I have to speak with the person i buy all my inverts etc from to see if i can get any of the smaller ones in

 

[Albireo Wulfbooper]

thank you! as for the smaller ones do they have any different requirements then like the typical care sheet? I have to speak with the person i buy all my inverts etc from to see if i can get any of the smaller ones in

Both of the Phrynus species are amazingly chill and low-maintenance. The barbadensis in particular eats very infrequently. Both are tolerant of a pretty good range of conditions. They’re about the easiest amblypygi to keep.

 

[nicklovesTs]

how often do you feed the Phrynus whitei vs barbadensis

 

[Albireo Wulfbooper]

how often do you feed the Phrynus whitei vs barbadensis

The whitei will take prey about every two weeks, the barbadensis is typically more like every 3-4 weeks (I offer every two weeks but she ignores the prey as often as not)

 

[nicklovesTs]

And just to make sure both of these species would work in my enclosure i currently have? If not I don’t mind buying a nice container as an enclosure and using this for some death feigning beetles.


Also do you remember how much each costed? So i can have an idea, all the ones i’ve seen so far are about 30-50 for an adult (not sure which tho lol)

 

[Albireo Wulfbooper]

Phrynus barbadensis would have tons of space in there. P. whitei as an adult would be a bit cramped. Paraphrynus carolynae (or mexicanus) are often available and also small enough for this enclosure. I understand the care for the Paraphrynus species to be essentially identical to that for Phrynus, though I have not kept them myself.

 

[Edan bandoot]

thank you once again

as for your own, the containers your keeping them in isn’t their permanent right? like they aren’t full grown yet?

You can keep them permanently in the styrofoam but it's not the prettiest, and generally once you have a full grown specimen you want to have it in a pretty enclosure

 

[Edan bandoot]

Phrynus barbadensis would have tons of space in there. P. whitei as an adult would be a bit cramped. Paraphrynus carolynae (or mexicanus) are often available and also small enough for this enclosure. I understand the care for the Paraphrynus species to be essentially identical to that for Phrynus, though I have not kept them myself.

I've heard some of the Paraphyrnus can be very delicate and hard to get breeding.

 

[Albireo Wulfbooper]

You can keep them permanently in the styrofoam but it's not the prettiest, and generally once you have a full grown specimen you want to have it in a pretty enclosure

I will likely make more attractive enclosures for my larger specimens at some point, but if I do, I won't be using cork. Instead I'm considering making a fake rock background, since that more accurately reflects their typical ecological niche in the absence of human structures. They'll still be as simple as these enclosures though - for me, the animal itself is what I find beautiful, not the stuff it's crawling around on. I don't especially care what that looks like, as long as it provides for their needs.

I've heard some of the Paraphyrnus can be very delicate and hard to get breeding.

I don't know about the breeding aspect, but to my knowledge the care of the species commonly available in the US is pretty much the same as for most other hobby amblypygi (D. medius aside) - it that not the case?

 

[nicklovesTs]

Cork is fine, yes. Most people use it without issue.

just making sure i’m talking about this cork, not sure if it would work as well and be unbothered by moisture tho

 

[Albireo Wulfbooper]

just making sure i’m talking about this cork, not sure if it would work as well and be unbothered by moisture tho

Personally I would hesitate to use this because I am not sure what kinds of adhesives are used to bind the cork pieces together. Unless it was made and sold specifically for use with reptiles and amphibians (which are notoriously sensitive to chemicals), I would consider it suspect.

 

[Edan bandoot]

I will likely make more attractive enclosures for my larger specimens at some point, but if I do, I won't be using cork. Instead I'm considering making a fake rock background, since that more accurately reflects their typical ecological niche in the absence of human structures. They'll still be as simple as these enclosures though - for me, the animal itself is what I find beautiful, not the stuff it's crawling around on. I don't especially care what that looks like, as long as it provides for their needs.



I don't know about the breeding aspect, but to my knowledge the care of the species commonly available in the US is pretty much the same as for most other hobby amblypygi (D. medius aside) - it that not the case?

I have no idea what's commonly available in the us

 

[Edan bandoot]

just making sure i’m talking about this cork, not sure if it would work as well and be unbothered by moisture tho

The back of my ambly enclosure uses that corkboard, it's worse than styro imo.

It molds.

 

[Albireo Wulfbooper]

I have no idea what's commonly available in the us

Mostly Paraphrynus carolynae and mexicanus are what i see people mentioning here.

The back of my ambly enclosure uses that corkboard, it's worse than styro imo.

It molds.

Good to know, thanks for your input.

 

[Edan bandoot]

Mostly Paraphrynus carolynae and mexicanus are what i see people mentioning here.



Good to know, thanks for your input.

Carolynae is mexicanus I thought. Being a desert species would probably make that one easy to keep alive. I was talking about the south American Paraphyrnus

 

[Albireo Wulfbooper]

Carolynae is mexicanus I thought. Being a desert species would probably make that one easy to keep alive. I was talking about the south American Paraphyrnus

Nah, they're separate, but I think used to be both under mexicanus? Anyway, not sure there are any other Paraphrynus species that are all that widely available in the states, but I could be wrong. Those two species at any rate seem to do well with standard care in captivity, from what I've seen here.

 

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[nicklovesTs]

Nah, they're separate, but I think used to be both under mexicanus? Anyway, not sure there are any other Paraphrynus species that are all that widely available in the states, but I could be wrong. Those two species at any rate seem to do well with standard care in captivity, from what I've seen here.

hey! i’m getting my tailless whip soon, my seller got one for me it’s a phrynus, i just have to wait for pics to see which one if you can help ID!

 

[nicklovesTs]

thanks! i’ll check it out