Hysterocrates hercules

Austin S.

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She is not a king baboon. Along with the mean ass attitude, she did not "hiss". :confused: I have two very large adult crawshayis, this looks nothing like them...
 

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Hmmm, can you post pictures of your other two Kings Austin?

She really looks like a C.crawshayi..
 

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This is my largest, the other is never out. Now to be honest with you, this does look like crawshayi and this SOB is going to get a hell of a talking.
 

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Austin I really believe you just picked up another C.crawshayi. I can't see any differences from the supposed H.hercules and your C.crawsahyi.

Not like picking up another one is a bad thing.
 

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We were the ones who sold this spider to Austin. It is not C. crawshayi. His picture does make it look like it is though. More than likely it is not H. hercules...which we also told austin before he purchased the spider from us. But i firmly believe it to be a Hysterocrates sp. This is a prime example that shows that you cannot ID from a photo. Below is a picture of another of these that was sold to us a H. hercules. I hope Austin will post a pic of his again....without the flash maybe.

Joel Miller
 

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Wow what a difference flash makes, Austin can you try taking pics without flash? The one Joel posted definately looks like a Hysterocrates spp.
 

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Is it not possible that the one he has and the one you have are different species? I have 15 C.crawshayi and his look like them, given that is an ID from a pic. The pic you posted doesn't look like your average C.crawshayi, but again that is an ID from a pic.
 

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Is it not possible that the one he has and the one you have are different species? I have 15 C.crawshayi and his look like them, given that is an ID from a pic. The pic you posted doesn't look like your average C.crawshayi, but again that is an ID from a pic.

Well if it is C. crawshayi...then i need to slow way down on packing spiders as from my memory the one i sent out looks just like the one i have here. But i am human and have made many mistakes.

Joel
 

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wow by looking at SSW pic that doesn't look like a king baboon at all,ive got 4 adult females they are very different,and yeah useing a flash makes a big difference,but you never know with this ssp.:?
 

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just on another note i know it's still young,but it looks very leggy also,just my opinion either way it's an awesome spider.:)
 

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Sorry I have not gotten back to this thread in a while, I was very busy tonight. Anyways, trying to take pics without a flash was a disaster. It is not like one of your normal cameras with just a switch of a button to turn the flash off, this lil bastard is hard to do. Just go everyone knows, the pics that I previously took look way to light than what this species actually looks like. Everytime it gives a threat display, no hissing. I have NEVER known any crawshayi that does not do this while being threatened. Crawshayi arent leggy also, this one is. She has very long legs and is a very dark orange, almost dark red color to her. But the no hissing subject for this one, dead givaway it is not crawshayi. Just for the record, SSW, calling you a SOB was uncalled for. I guess people and their suggestions can really get to you and lead you toover looks things. Tomorrow, I will figure this damn camera out and get some decent photos without the flash. Sound good?

Austin
 

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However, as of for now, I have some pics I did take a lilttle bit ago. I could only take the brightness down. I'll figure out the no flash crap tomorrow. The last pic however, is without the flash, but it will not focus in on it if the cameras life depended on it. But I'll go ahead and post it for you.


 

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This is my largest, the other is never out. Now to be honest with you, this does look like crawshayi and this SOB is going to get a hell of a talking.
Look at the back thick legs here, see how they point inward like each crawshayi's do? The new one's do not...
 

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I'm just going to say it. Hairy thick legs, not pointing inward, no hissing. This is not C. crawshayi. Sorry for the mix up.
 

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Hey Austin, i did notice that she did have a very redish brown appearance before i sent her out....this is due to her being very well into her molt cycle....once she molts she will look totally different .....at that point ...you can take a pic and it will look alot different as well. I think this is a real good lesson showing that "Kodak Taxonomy" does not work well. Of course it would still be nice to know exactly what kind of Hysterocrates you have....your female has a lot of growing to do also....she looks like she is going to be a monster.


Joel Miller
 

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Hi ...

No Hysterocrates sp. or even Phoneyusa sp. share these large tarsus and metatarsue ... I mean, a camera cannot change anything to the large apparence of these organs ... We're not talking of the coloration here ... No a doubt this is Citharischius crawshayi to me.
 

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Hi Cedrik, did you see the picture that i posted earlier in this thread? Tell me what you think about that one please. Thanks!

Joel Miller
 
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