HELP!! T. Seladonia

[Jonathan6303]

I put him in the jar hoping it would be better then immediately posted a pic on here asking for help. I don't need to prove to anything to you. Idk who you are. I got all my info from https://arachnoboards.com/threads/t...aena-seladonia-to-make-a-new-trapdoor.342797/
As well as other threads, Tarantula Dan, Palp Friction and other sources.
I simply asked for help on a very rare species that many people are very declined to keep and openly admit to because of the challenge of this species. I came here for advice, not to be taunted. I never mentioned the jar was a good idea, I thought it was horrible idea. But I DID IT, and asked for help. As for the "slow process" of making a trapdoor, I'm not quite so sure, this isn't my only trapdoor. As well In his original sling pot I had him in on a pice of cork bark with a screwed out hole that he had ran into and I was able to watch him personally make his trapdoor. However halfway through I accidentally spooked him, he ran out and would not return.

All of this info is what I have already been doing. Leaving little bits of shavings in the holes. Sprinkling little bits on top of the bark or near the areas. I believe Ventilation/humidity is my #1 concern.

Why not put him in his original enclosure and allow him to settle in again

 

[DSmith11]

Why not put him in his original enclosure and allow him to settle in again

Have you kept T Seladonia? His original enclosure was a vial. Idk how else to explain it but most tarantulas tend to fit in or grow into their enclosures. Your aren't gonna give a gallon tank to a sling or juve. However T Seladonia are so small and they are Arboreal that people give them a bit bigger enclosure then you normally would other tarantulas. So I transferred him out of the vial and into this tall see through jar, cause my deli cups are not see through.

 

[Jonathan6303]

Have you kept T Seladonia? His original enclosure was a vial. Idk how else to explain it but most tarantulas tend to fit in or grow into their enclosures. Your aren't gonna give a gallon tank to a sling or juve. However T Seladonia are so small and they are Arboreal that people give them a bit bigger enclosure then you normally would other tarantulas. So I transferred him out of the vial and into this tall see through jar, cause my deli cups are not see through.

 

[DSmith11]

I've already watched this.

I've seen all of daves seladonia videos. Like I've said I've researched everything they're like the one arboreal that wants it dry. But you gotta keep it a little wet. You gotta drill holes in or have good shaped bark. You should have moss, lichen and wood shavings mixed up and preferably put around the hole of the trapdoor area. I believe there's a reason there hard to keep. And I believe there's a reason you're not supposed to buy them without them having already come eith a pre-made trapdoor.

 

[Jonathan6303]

I've already watched this

I like how he keeps these. Also if you watch the video of them in nature before then you can mimic there surrounding. If you grab say a 4 oz. deli cup ventilate the sides on the bottom and the top and the lid with a thumbtack. Add dry sub some moss, wood shavings, crushed leaves, lichen, and a tattoo ink cap for a water dish. That’s a good enclosure.

 

[DSmith11]

I like how he keeps these

Yes mine is the size of my pinky. I will repeat again that I fully believe that moisture is the problem and that he just never created a a trapdoor. And like Tom Moran puts it I definitely have tarantula anxiety which definitely doesnt help and get worried about my tarantulas constantly, especially this T Seladonia.

 

[Jonathan6303]

I've already watched this.

I've seen all of daves seladonia videos. Like I've said I've researched everything they're like the one arboreal that wants it dry. But you gotta keep it a little wet. You gotta drill holes in or have good shaped bark. You should have moss, lichen and wood shavings mixed up and preferably put around the hole of the trapdoor area. I believe there's a reason there hard to keep. And I believe there's a reason you're not supposed to buy them without them having already come eith a pre-made trapdoor.

I’m confused what’s is the problem with your sling?

Yes mine is the size of my pinky. I will repeat again that I fully believe that moisture is the problem and that he just never created a a trapdoor. And like Tom Moran puts it I definitely have tarantula anxiety which definitely doesnt help and get worried about my tarantulas constantly, especially this T Seladonia.

Keep ‘em dry with a water dish. If it looks like it need water spray the side of the enclosure

 

[DSmith11]

I’m confused what’s is the problem with your sling?

It won't make a trapdoor on the corkbark. It just sits there. Now that I'm remembering at one point it made a trapdoor on the ground or what looked like one.

 

[Jonathan6303]

It won't make a trapdoor on the corkbark. It just sits there. Now that I'm remembering at one point it made a trapdoor on the ground or what looked like one.

You said it started making a trap door and then got spooked and stopped . How long has it been since it got spooked

 

[Arachnopets]

I've already watched this.

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With all due respect, how is anyone supposed to know which videos you have watched and which threads you have read, or what knowledge you actually have on the species? People are linking videos and linking threads to try and give you exactly what you asked for .... "HELP!!" ...

You also keep changing what you need help with, at the same time stating:

Like I've said I've researched everything

Surely you can see how what you actually need help with is a tad confusing?

 

[Jonathan6303]

With all due respect, how is anyone supposed to know which videos you have watched and which threads you have read, or what knowledge you actually have on the species? People are linking videos and linking threads to try and give you exactly what you asked for .... "HELP!!" ...

You also keep changing what you need help with, at the same time stating:

Surely you can see how what you actually need help with is a tad confusing?

Thank goodness I thought I was the only one who thought that

 

[DSmith11]

You said it started making a trap door and then got spooked and stopped . How long has it been since it got spooked

I believe it was, because it was silking up the hole. It's been 3 or 4

With all due respect, how is anyone supposed to know which videos you have watched and which threads you have read, or what knowledge you actually have on the species? People are linking videos and linking threads to try and give you exactly what you asked for .... "HELP!!" ...

You also keep changing what you need help with, at the same time stating:

Surely you can see how what you actually need help with is a tad confusing?

Read through, I've listed every person I've watched. Im sorry if you dont know these people. Tarantula Dan, Dave's Little Beasties, Tarantula Collective, the thread I linked earlier. Palp Friction. And just various other videos. What more do you need? The fact that my sling won't make trapdoor. I had picture of the enclosure up here of the tarantula in a jar temporarily. I didnt know hoe bad of an idea it was. But then the members started to make some fun. And said I had no research or knowledge and started listing all of the same things I am listing right now. So i took down my picture. And they continued to make fun. The only problem I am having is my T Seladonia sling won't make a trapdoor.

 

[Jonathan6303]

I believe it was, because it was silking up the hole. It's been 3 or 4
Read through, I've listed every person I've watched. Im sorry if you dont know these people. Tarantula Dan, Dave's Little Beasties, Tarantula Collective, the thread I linked earlier. Palp Friction. And just various other videos. What more do you need? The fact that my sling won't make trapdoor. I had picture of the enclosure up here of the tarantula in a jar temporarily. I didnt know hoe bad of an idea it was. But then the members started to make some fun. And said I had no research or knowledge and started listing all of the same things I am listing right now. So i took down my picture. And they continued to make fun. The only problem I am having is my T Seladonia sling won't make a trapdoor.

put the sling back in the vial you had it before that’s all you should do. It will make a trapdoor eventually. There is no more advice anybody could give you. I must be honest your making this very difficult since your being very vague and changing the question. If you watched Dave’s video then you have all you need for husbandry.

 

[viper69]

With all due respect, how is anyone supposed to know which videos you have watched and which threads you have read, or what knowledge you actually have on the species? People are linking videos and linking threads to try and give you exactly what you asked for .... "HELP!!" ...

You also keep changing what you need help with, at the same time stating:

Surely you can see how what you actually need help with is a tad confusing?

Agreed!

Im sorry if you dont know these people. Tarantula Dan, Dave's Little Beasties, Tarantula Collective

FYI- AB and its owners have been owning and involved with the tarantula community long before all those click bait stupidtube posters were on the scene. They have been around when people actually attended national tarantula meetings here in the USA

I didnt know hoe bad of an idea it was.

So here’s the part that makes no sense- your shifting jar story.

Jar Story Versions
1. I’m keeping it in the jar (which had no relevant ventilation to speak of) til it gets larger

2 I’m only keeping it in the jar for a short time

Reasons 1 and 2 conflicting, like a lie

3. “I didn’t know hoe bad of an idea it was”

Reason 3 indicates no valid research was done

And during all these you changed your story on what research you claim to have done, telling us all you “did a lot of research” (Personally I don’t believe you did any research at all)

Well how is it you did all this research and stuffed your little T into a solid walled glass jar? And which reason? You changed your story- so it’s obvious to maybe most everyone that you know virtually nothing regarding their husbandry at the time of your OP.

All we do know is that your jar story keeps changing, you sound like a very very bad politician.

Good luck

 

[Jonathan6303]

Agreed!



FYI- AB and its owners have been owning and involved with the tarantula community long before all those click bait stupidtube posters were on the scene. They have been around when people actually attended national tarantula meetings here in the USA



So here’s the part that makes no sense- your shifting jar story.

Jar Story Versions
1. I’m keeping it in the jar (which had no relevant ventilation to speak of) til it gets larger

2 I’m only keeping it in the jar for a short time

Reasons 1 and 2 conflicting, like a lie

3. “I didn’t know hoe bad of an idea it was”

Reason 3 indicates no valid research was done

And during all these you changed your story on what research you claim to have done, telling us all you “did a lot of research” (Personally I don’t believe you did any research at all)

Well how is it you did all this research and stuffed your little T into a solid walled glass jar? And which reason? You changed your story- so it’s obvious to maybe most everyone that you know virtually nothing regarding their husbandry at the time of your OP.

All we do know is that your jar story keeps changing, you sound like a very very bad politician.

Good luck

That sums it up quite well

 

[DSmith11]

I never changed my question, it was answered by the very kind first commenter. The you <edit> came on and I played along. As well Palp fiction is one of the original US breeders.

 

[Jonathan6303]

I never changed my question, it was answered by the very kind first commenter. The you <edit> came on and I played along. As well Palp fiction is one of the original US breeders.

Ouch

 

[moricollins]

As well Palp fiction is one of the original US breeders.

Did they recommend keeping it in a glass jar with little ventilation? Or was that so you could see the trapdoor tarantula better as you stated in this post:

I just wanted him, especially, on display so I put him in this

 

[viper69]

I never changed my question, it was answered by the very kind first commenter. The you came on and I played along. As well Palp fiction is one of the original US breeders.

You have changed your reasons for using a death trap jar..

 

[waynerowley]

Patience is key with keeping Ts, and I think with T seladonia especially. I have a sling - in fact it's one from Dave from his recent breeding success. I've had it for a few months now. It's moulted once that I know about, and I think it's in pre-moult again (it's killed it's recent food without eating it).

I keep it in a vial, with plenty of ventilation holes in the lid. It took several weeks to make a trap-door home, and in fact it's decided to make it all via web rather than in a crevice in the wood. Each to their own! What I've learned from research and experience:

- I think T seladonia slings are often pulled/separated from mother too early. Research suggests that the mother provides the first few meals to the slings. If they are removed and homed too early they may not be ready to hunt and feed - even fruit flies or pre-killed. As I said ours took a few weeks to make a home and trapdoor.

- They are rubbish at/don't feed if they're not behind a trapdoor.

- Keep dry. I add a few drops of water each week. I've seen it drink from them at least once!



Yes, it made it's home on the flat side. Plenty of crevices on the other side.

*Sigh*


- Put it in an appropriately sized (small) enclosure. Anything too big and the food won't pass the trapdoor
- Make sure of plenty of ventilation
- Keep dry, but provide drops of drinking water regularly
- Be patient, let your spider settle. It'll make a home/trapdoor when it's ready and not before.

Wayne