HELP!! T. Seladonia

[DSmith11]

Hello, I recently bought a T Seladonia sling. However I can't get it to make a trap door! I'm not quite sure what I'm doing wrong. I have all the necessary elements for it, the corck bark, shavings, moss, lichen. And here is a picture of him, its a bit blurry cause i have him in a jar until he gets a bit bigger. The cork bark has many indents and holes already that I didn't screw one in.

 

[Liquifin]

I haven't worked with T. seladonia but I do have some serious things to say: It's not a proper enclosure. That jar has no cross-ventilation for proper air flow, so it's going to cause a breathing death trap if it doesn't get moved into a proper enclosure.

In terms of making a trapdoor, it will depend on the specimen itself once it gets confortable enough to make one. As for how long that'll take it will depend on the specimen. But you need a new enclosure first for sure because that jar is a severe red-flag. I hope this gives a bit of insight. Maybe more people will chime in on this in terms of working with this species.

 

[BoyFromLA]

Read on:

Tip: How to get Typhochlaena seladonia to make a new trapdoor

Over the past couple of years I have seen several threads started by new keepers of Typhochlaena seladonia asking what can be done to trigger the spider to build a trapdoor. Some people suggested drilling a hole into the cork, others suggested to increase the humidity or add lichen flakes. While...

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[viper69]

Hello, I recently bought a T Seladonia sling. However I can't get it to make a trap door! I'm not quite sure what I'm doing wrong. I have all the necessary elements for it, the corck bark, shavings, moss, lichen. And here is a picture of him, its a bit blurry cause i have him in a jar until he gets a bit bigger. The cork bark has many indents and holes already that I didn't screw one in.

I can tell your EXPENSIVE T will die because you didn’t do proper research on its husbandry. I’m not sure why you didn’t do this.

 

[Kibosh]

Buys one of the most expensive and rare T's in the hobby... puts it in a glass jar like an 8 year old who found a grasshopper in his back yard .

Look at the advice above.

Please do more research and know 100% what you are doing before you buy a T next time.

Especially one so rare.

Seriously how our trade makes species endangered.

 

[Tarantuland]

Seladonia is the reason I won't buy expensive slings. Mine was the most expensive sling I've bought. It took a while but eventually made the trapdoor for a few months. It was found dead in the trapdoor with a full water dish. FWIW, it was shortly after I stopped lightly misting. But I had absurd ventilation because 2 years ago I knew less, and people knew less about keeping seladonia.

 

[DSmith11]

I haven't worked with T. seladonia but I do have some serious things to say: It's not a proper enclosure. That jar has no cross-ventilation for proper air flow, so it's going to cause a breathing death trap if it doesn't get moved into a proper enclosure.

In terms of making a trapdoor, it will depend on the specimen itself once it gets confortable enough to make one. As for how long that'll take it will depend on the specimen. But you need a new enclosure first for sure because that jar is a severe red-flag. I hope this gives a bit of insight. Maybe more people will chime in on this in terms of working with this species.

Okay, thank you. I have seen and heard about ventilation and humidity alot when researching this species. I just wanted him, especially, on display so I put him in this instead of another enclosure i messed the holes up on. I guess I'll rehouse one of my others into a deli cup.

 

[Tarantuland]

Okay, thank you. I have seen and heard about ventilation and humidity alot when researching this species. I just wanted him, especially, on display so instead of another enclosure i messed the holes up on. I guess I'll rehouse one of my others into a deli cup.

I'd recommend a ventilated amac box or at least a 32oz deli cup if you're going to get one, depending on the size of the spider. There are videos on setting them up and threads on it. Don't chase humidity, but you do need ventilation

 

[DSmith11]

I'd recommend a ventilated amac box or at least a 32oz deli cup if you're going to get one, depending on the size of the spider. There are videos on setting them up and threads on it. Don't chase humidity, but you do need ventilation

Okay, thanks alot. I got some on hand then.

Seladonia is the reason I won't buy expensive slings. Mine was the most expensive sling I've bought. It took a while but eventually made the trapdoor for a few months. It was found dead in the trapdoor with a full water dish. FWIW, it was shortly after I stopped lightly misting. But I had absurd ventilation because 2 years ago I knew less, and people knew less about keeping seladonia.

Ahh good to know. This is the first expensive tarantula I've bought and so I have been very paranoid since the first day, havent wanted any mishaps.

 

[viper69]

and so I have been very paranoid

as you should be

 

[DSmith11]

as you should be

I got him a couple days ago "Old Timer". So why don't you calm down. A night or two in a jar is gonna be fine.

 

[HeartBum]

I got him a couple days ago "Old Timer". So why don't you calm down. A night or two in a jar is gonna be fine.

Famous last words. But how long have you actually had them? Must be more than a “night or two” if you’re concerned about them not making a trapdoor as of yet as you should know it takes any T a while to become accustomed to their new environment.

 

[DSmith11]

Famous last words.

Famous last words. But how long have you actually had them? Must be more than a “night or two” if you’re concerned about them not making a trapdoor as of yet as you should know it takes any T a while to become accustomed to their new environment.

A week. It started to make a trapdoor in its original enclosure but i believe i spooked it out of the hole and it would not budge. So I wanted to upgrade to something bigger that was see through for a Seladonia. However I did not know that ventilation was so much of an issue, and it's not like there was only 5 holes up there. I was more concerned about humidity.

 

[ByMennen]

Hopefully we learned from our mistakes.
I'm my opinion, a trapdoor spider will never be "on display".
Hope all is well with your expensive new pet cork bark.

 

[viper69]

I got him a couple days ago "Old Timer". So why don't you calm down. A night or two in a jar is gonna be fine.

You’re assuming too much which isn’t surprising.

I am calm. If your T dies or not neither outcome affects me.

I wrote what I did because these are RARE, and not easy to raise yet, maybe never.

If I bought them I too would be quite cautious

As for a night or two in a jar, your original post reads you’re keeping him in that jar until it gets bigger

You aren’t fooling anyone here, you bought a pretty T and you did virtually little research on them. If you had done the barest bit, you’d never put it in that death trap.

good luck!

 

[UtilityTurkey]

This tarantula I stayed away from because of its unique husbandry and also the price. Also I don't keep dwarfs unless they're freebies.

Goodluck on raising it. Theres some good advice in here and also YT videos. I've see a lot of Americans salty about this tarantula before, because for them it's illegal to keep I think, so sometimes you get people that think others shouldn't keep it since they can't. Maybe I'm just imagining things again.

It would be a shame for it to die. I think even Dave from DLB YT channel killed a few with poor husbandry before he found the sweet spot. Next time do some more research first.

 

[Jonathan6303]

Natural habitat

 

[vicareux]

I've read somewhere that they do better when the building material is closer to the hole in the wood, saves them their energy climbing around with the material and saves them time, obviously.

 

[Pmurinushmacla]

I've read somewhere that they do better when the building material is closer to the hole in the wood, saves them their energy climbing around with the material and saves them time, obviously.

If my T can chuck dirt from the other side of the enclosure into its water dish, I think they can carry a little dirt up some wood lol. Though it would make sense that it might encourage trapdoor making.

 

[DSmith11]

You’re assuming too much which isn’t surprising.

I am calm. If your T dies or not neither outcome affects me.

I wrote what I did because these are RARE, and not easy to raise yet, maybe never.

If I bought them I too would be quite cautious

As for a night or two in a jar, your original post reads you’re keeping him in that jar until it gets bigger

You aren’t fooling anyone here, you bought a pretty T and you did virtually little research on them. If you had done the barest bit, you’d never put it in that death trap.

good luck!

I put him in the jar hoping it would be better then immediately posted a pic on here asking for help. I don't need to prove to anything to you. Idk who you are. I got all my info from https://arachnoboards.com/threads/t...aena-seladonia-to-make-a-new-trapdoor.342797/
As well as other threads, Tarantula Dan, Palp Friction and other sources.
I simply asked for help on a very rare species that many people are very declined to keep and openly admit to because of the challenge of this species. I came here for advice, not to be taunted. I never mentioned the jar was a good idea, I thought it was horrible idea. But I DID IT, and asked for help. As for the "slow process" of making a trapdoor, I'm not quite so sure, this isn't my only trapdoor. As well In his original sling pot I had him in on a pice of cork bark with a screwed out hole that he had ran into and I was able to watch him personally make his trapdoor. However halfway through I accidentally spooked him, he ran out and would not return.

All of this info is what I have already been doing. Leaving little bits of shavings in the holes. Sprinkling little bits on top of the bark or near the areas. I believe Ventilation/humidity is my #1 concern.