First OW Ideas!

[EnigmaNyx]

Hey folks! Don't worry, not getting an OW yet lol...

Just wanted to get a running archive of good OW's to look into when we decide to take that jump, when we feel "ready". There's a list we've created of OW's that we'd like to keep eventually, but we're patiently learning and gathering up our NW collection first.

So with that being said, what are some good paths to break into the OW collection? One of my personal favorites, for coloration purposes, is the H. Pulchripes. Would that be okay to start with?

 

[Liquifin]

If you're looking for the better beginner OW T.'s then I recommend A. ezendami as they're average sized T.'s getting at 4'' and are very chill in comparison to most baboons. The growth rates are quite steadily so it's not too fast to where it's outpacing your experience level and it's not too slow to where you're waiting for ages just for a molt. It's what I consider to be the perfect OW T. for starters.

Augacephalus ezendami

• Liquifin
• Nov 4, 2019
• 4
• augacephalus augacephalus ezendami ceratogyrus ezendami ezendami female mature female mozambique baboon tarantula

My oldest female named Queen, the oldest T. in my collection. She's getting a little slow but...

A. ezendami Good Pic

• Liquifin
• Dec 15, 2018
• augacephalus augacephalus ezendami augacephalus photos ceratogyrus ezendami ezendami

One of the better pics. Enjoy

0.1 A. ezendami #2 Feeding

• Liquifin
• Jul 29, 2018
• augacephalus augacephalus ezendami ceratogyrus ezendami ezendami feeding female

While I wait for my other one to have a sac hopefully. Here's my second one that's freshly...

 

[thatdadlife619]

I would say a Ceratogyrus marshalli/darlingi or Monocentropus balfouri would make a great beginner OW. Very relaxed for being baboons, also the husbandry is quite simple for all of them as well

C. marshalli

• thatdadlife619
• Oct 29, 2020
• ceratogyrus great horned baboon tarantula juvenile unsexed

Rehouse time, suspect female around 2.75’’ dls. I’ve heard too many opinions on the horn being...

This is my suspect female C. marshalli during a rehouse the other day and I had to remind myself that this was an OW it was so calm. You mentioned H. pulchripes as well as a possible choice and mine has been really stress free caring for, another uncharacteristic baboon

 

[Craig73]

Not ow, but check out Psalmopoeus. I have the irmania and victori currently, but the others are cool as well like the cambridgei which gets good feedback.

They are nw, but lack the urticating hairs, have stronger venom potency, and pretty darn quick. Nice transition into ow.

 

[viper69]

Search on the forum for ladder system, and other terms too.

What you find is relevant now. There is nothing new lately

 

[Tarantuland]

everyone says A ezendami but I don't have one yet. My first OW was obt but my H pulchripes stays hidden most of the time. But agreed with @viper69 just search the forums, you'll find dozens of people asking this question constantly

 

[EnigmaNyx]

Thanks for all the quick responses! @Tarantuland what made you want to get an OBT first? Everyone tells me that’s a bad idea

 

[Smotzer]

Just not Heteroscodra maculata

 

[EnigmaNyx]

Just not Heteroscodra maculata

Well now I have to ask why? Lol better or worse than the OBT?

 

[jay444]

Ceratogyrus and Monocentropus are good first OW genus to start with like every one said. That being said, temperament vary from specimen and you can sometime get really really defensive behavior from theses genus as well. IMO, when jumping into OW, you need to be ready for them overall, don't jump in expecting a docile specimen, jump in when you're ready to handle any kind of speed and defensiveness (because all of them from every genus can have it).

Overall, I would advise not to start with any OW arboreals or with significant stronger venom (H. mac, S.cal) as they are less forgiving.

Now, I gotta say my H. Pulchripes is my personal favorite OW. Beautiful colors, beautiful setup (ant nest like burrow), great eater and not to grumpy. Mine is almost always out, but even if it spent 99% of the time hidden, it is so beautiful i'd say the 1% is worth keeping it.

 

[Smotzer]

Well now I have to ask why? Lol better or worse than the OBT?

Very fast arboreal old world with pretty nasty venom, not a beginner tarantula, and one you most certainly do not won’t to get tagged by. That and Stromatopelma calceatum particularly nasty bites if wet. Basically avoid any arboreal OW as a first.

That being said they don’t need to be demonized just treated with respect.

 

[thatdadlife619]

Not ow, but check out Psalmopoeus. I have the irmania and victori currently, but the others are cool as well like the cambridgei which gets good feedback.

They are nw, but lack the urticating hairs, have stronger venom potency, and pretty darn quick. Nice transition into ow.

I’m more cautious doing any type of maintenance/feeding with my P. irminia than my P. murinus goodness gracious, so so quick

 

[jay444]

That being said they don’t need to be demonized just treated with respect.

Completely agree, I've could not have said better

 

[thatdadlife619]

Just not Heteroscodra maculata

Definitely definitely definitely not that

 

[EnigmaNyx]

You guys are awesome. I definitely don’t demonize OW’s, in fact I respect the crap outta them. I realize that I don’t have the experience to take one on quite yet, and I would definitely feel terrible getting one prematurely and not caring for it properly.

That being said, they fascinate me to no end. The speed, defensiveness, and the knowledge of those taking care of them is something I strive to one day be a part of. Plus, can’t lie, some of the most beautiful T’s I’ve ever seen are OW, and who doesn’t want something nice to look at lol. I look forward to the challenge.

No discredit to NW, we definitely are enjoying the beginning of our collection, and some are exceptionally beautiful and quirky. It’s fun to me to see how different each genus and species behaves, and the challenge each poses to owning.

 

[Smotzer]

I’m more cautious doing any type of maintenance/feeding with my P. irminia than my P. murinus goodness gracious, so so quick

I’m like that with my one cambridgei, my irminia is like a laid back terrestrial compared to that high strung psycho. The irminia on the other hand just waltzes our during a rehouse and never bolts. While the other one makes it it’s mission to tweak out.

 

[thatdadlife619]

You guys are awesome. I definitely don’t demonize OW’s, in fact I respect the crap outta them. I realize that I don’t have the experience to take one on quite yet, and I would definitely feel terrible getting one prematurely and not caring for it properly.

That being said, they fascinate me to no end. The speed, defensiveness, and the knowledge of those taking care of them is something I strive to one day be a part of. Plus, can’t lie, some of the most beautiful T’s I’ve ever seen are OW, and who doesn’t want something nice to look at lol. I look forward to the challenge.

No discredit to NW, we definitely are enjoying the beginning of our collection, and some are exceptionally beautiful and quirky. It’s fun to me to see how different each genus and species behaves, and the challenge each poses to owning.

Tom Moran once said in a P. murinus husbandry vid that no keeper should ever be afraid of any specimen they care for, that if there is a true underlying fear of any t you have that you probably weren’t ready for it yet. Know your boundaries, keep asking questions like you’re doing. It all comes down to knowledge and respect, if you think you’re ready for any of the spiders mentioned that is completely up to you.

I’m like that with my one cambridgei, my irminia is like a laid back terrestrial compared to that high strung psycho. The irminia on the other hand just waltzes our during a rehouse and never bolts. While the other one makes it it’s mission to tweak out.

Gotta love that although the same species, still both unique personalities

 

[Smotzer]

Gotta love that although the same species, still both unique personalities

Yeah if they were all exactly the same it would be a lot less interesting. The cambridgei on the last rehouse did laps around the bathtub so fast there was no way to accurately catch cup i without accidentally getting a few legs in the process. Waited for him to tire himself out lol.

 

[thatdadlife619]

Very fast arboreal old world with pretty nasty venom, not a beginner tarantula, and one you most certainly do not won’t to get tagged by. That and Stromatopelma calceatum particularly nasty bites if wet. Basically avoid any arboreal OW as a first.

That being said they don’t need to be demonized just treated with respect.

I’ve also read that their venom can cause a ridiculously nasty allergic reaction in which your tongue can swell to the point of obstructing breathing

 

[Smotzer]

I’ve also read that their venom can cause a ridiculously nasty allergic reaction in which your tongue can swell to the point of obstructing breathing

Hadn’t read that before but doesn’t sound fun...