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Cyriocosmus sp. "Bolivia"
Cyriocosmus sp. "Bolivia"
Eric
Cyriocosmus sp. "Bolivia"
Eric
Genus Cyriocosmus
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Cyriocosmus elegans:
Cyriocosmus sp. Bolivia:
Cyriocosmus sp. Bolivia:
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Some pics of my elegans with prey. I feed them mortally wounded Tenebrio obscurus, and they do great. It takes about one worm a week to keep them nice and fat.
Well, here is another C. elegans eggsac. This one is quite important for me as it was bred with specimens we collected in Trinidad... new blood... as far as I know all what is in the hobby currently is bred from a few specimens collected on Tobago only...
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tarcan congrats! impressive as always. hope things all go well.
-Mike
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Congrats!
Quite wonderful. I have two bloodlines already, and I hope to be looking for that one soon. Keep up the fantastic work!
Quite wonderful. I have two bloodlines already, and I hope to be looking for that one soon. Keep up the fantastic work!
Thanks everyone...
Texas Blonde... I think in your case "bloodlines" might be an illusion... unless there have been other imports that I am not aware of... everything in the hobby has been bred from 7 (if I remember right) specimens collected in Tobago... and I am not sure those 7 specimens collected "participated" in the gene pool or not... also information on the breedings (which females with which males) have not been made public and have not followed with the offsprings, so even myself, my original specimens I do not know which of the 7 original specimens they originate from... and even though I produced over 15 eggsacs so far, they are all somehow closely related...
There have been some commercial exports from Trinidad, so maybe there were some new specimens in those, I just do not know it...
This species apparently was very common in the hobby about ten years ago, but they vanished just like C. leetzi did recently (C. leetzi was introduced with only 2 or 3 specimens collected)... I suspect that this genus might be more affected by inbreeding then other theraphosids, but I have no proof to that, just facts that leads me to believe so...
But also the fact that the females do not live long, they have a reduced sexual fertility period compared to other species of other genus, so if hobbyists do not replenish constantly their stock of females (which is a bit of an odd concept for the theraphosid hobby) they will end up with old females that will refuse the males or will not produce eggs and I predict we will be again in the same situation of a common species vanishing again. I recently find that even my "older" (a bit more the 3 years, so not that old) females are already getting more difficult to breed this year. I had 2 males munched agressively this summer which never happened to me before.
All the best
Martin
Texas Blonde... I think in your case "bloodlines" might be an illusion... unless there have been other imports that I am not aware of... everything in the hobby has been bred from 7 (if I remember right) specimens collected in Tobago... and I am not sure those 7 specimens collected "participated" in the gene pool or not... also information on the breedings (which females with which males) have not been made public and have not followed with the offsprings, so even myself, my original specimens I do not know which of the 7 original specimens they originate from... and even though I produced over 15 eggsacs so far, they are all somehow closely related...
There have been some commercial exports from Trinidad, so maybe there were some new specimens in those, I just do not know it...
This species apparently was very common in the hobby about ten years ago, but they vanished just like C. leetzi did recently (C. leetzi was introduced with only 2 or 3 specimens collected)... I suspect that this genus might be more affected by inbreeding then other theraphosids, but I have no proof to that, just facts that leads me to believe so...
But also the fact that the females do not live long, they have a reduced sexual fertility period compared to other species of other genus, so if hobbyists do not replenish constantly their stock of females (which is a bit of an odd concept for the theraphosid hobby) they will end up with old females that will refuse the males or will not produce eggs and I predict we will be again in the same situation of a common species vanishing again. I recently find that even my "older" (a bit more the 3 years, so not that old) females are already getting more difficult to breed this year. I had 2 males munched agressively this summer which never happened to me before.
All the best
Martin
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Martin, I should have been more specific. I have spiders from two different batches. Both from your sacs, actually. They came labled B2 and B1. Maybe I assumed they are two different batches?
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Yes, that is correct, I just labelled as such to differenciate the two eggsac for the importer. But they are definitly related somehow, possibly same father, I would need to check it up if I have it somewhere. Unfortunatly, these batches were during me movind and Amanda was not here at that time so my notes were not very well taken... fortunatly we are doing much better now!
All the best
Martin
All the best
Martin
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Is it possible that you could provide me with some family history?. I like to keep fairly in depth notes on each of my spiders. If what you suggested is true, and inbreeding has a strong affect on this species, then any and all family information would likely come in handy in US breeding attempts.
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Hi Martin,tarcan said:
great stuff.
.. congrats !!!
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Awesome picture Martin! I wasn't aware that there was such a big difference between the two.
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Martin, is this "mutant" from the batch of 1/6" (tobago) s'lings you are selling right now?
