Can I hold my H. Maculata?

[von_z]

very good von. you could have saved yourself some time by using the multiquote function to point out all of her posts

another one makes the ignore list



you're welcome meme. i would like to say most of them *do* mean well. there execution just lacks a little

Thanks, I was wondering how to include quotes from multiple posts. I saw the button but wasn't sure if that was what it meant. This is the first online forum I have ever joined, so I am still learning how it all works. If you feel the need to put me on your ignore list, that's fine. I can't think of why I would need to P.M. you anyway.

Oh, and I think you mean't THEIR, not there. There means a place. Their is a plural possessive.

 

[penny'smom]

I don't like nice animals, I tend to go for the more ferocious ones that scratch, bite, sting, pinch, and growl. The field I am going into says it all. A Veterinarian!

meme101

Ok, being a veterinary technicnian of 17 years experience, this attitude really bothers me. DVM's don't go into the field because they want to deal with mean animals. If the above is your reason, I hope you plan to be working for a zoo or safari, where you can treat all the scratching, biting, pinching, & growling animals to your heart's content.

This set of posts is interesting as it was started by a potential vet. Remember in the future that many different types of animals get problems from their health and behaviour when people buy them and haven't done their species or breed homework first. A good vet will need to educate people not to do this, and that should have applied to the person who sold you the togo as well. The first question is always " what do I want my potential pet for?"

Amen Sylvi. :clap: :clap:

I'm going into a field where I'll get bit, scratched, and much more worse than a spider bite. I'm not saying that it wont do damage to me if I did get bit but saying that I'll be discouraged is something that would never happen.

meme101

Again, having been in the veterinary field as long as I have, nothing I have experienced was as bad as some of the bite reports I have read on various tarantula boards.

I think that's all I have to say on this thread. Good luck, should you decide to hold the H mac

 

[Pociemon]

Well if you want to try handling it i think you should go ahead. There has been plenty of feedback for you now. Just do it in a safe place for the T.

I have a friend who recently handled his big male T. Apophysis and got a full bite, not a funny experience. His hand was doubled in size the next morning and had some pain the next couple of days. And the venom from this species is not as bad as H. Maculata. Just a little warning.

 

[meme101]

Well, heck. It's so cute and cuddly looking. It doesn't respond much to me when I put my hand in the tank and close to it. I've kinda bumped it's webbing and nothing has happened. Should I still try to hold it? I'd really like to get the feel of holding my first tarantula. I guess I'll see you in the bite section.

meme101

It's not very big yet. It was on the slower side when I unpacked it and it did not respond in an aggressive manner. Gosh, I don't know. It's just so cute and fuzzy!

meme101

The person at a local pet store sold it to me and someone identified it as a H. Mac. I don't like nice animals, I tend to go for the more ferocious ones that scratch, bite, sting, pinch, and growl. The field I am going into says it all. A Veterinarian!

meme101

Quote:
Originally Posted by Talkenlate04
Well you might want to be a Vet, but your still going to need a medic if you get bit.

That's what mums are for!

meme101

If I can handle a Nile crocodile with success and not being attacked, I do call myself pretty darn lucky. And I've encountered much scarier things in my life then a pesky tarantula. Hnn!

meme101

The pet store I purchased it at specializes in exotic pets, and after doing a bit of reading and research, the H. Mac is not an unusual species.. In fact, it's a hobby classic! Oh, and it's certainly a H. Mac! I am not saying that the person selling them is a rocket scientist, but not a complete idiot either.

meme101

I'm going into a field where I'll get bit, scratched, and much more worse than a spider bite. I'm not saying that it wont do damage to me if I did get bit but saying that I'll be discouraged is something that would never happen.

meme101

This is how I came to that conclusion. I read every post on this entire thread, and although meme seemed a couple of times like she was going to heed our advice, she continually returned to this theme. I don't think that she is an idiot or a thrill seeker. It just seemed that she only wanted advice if she got the answer that she wanted to hear. She had been cautioned and she can do what she wants.

I am listening to everyone about not holding my little guy but all you guys were telling me that it's just fast and well yes dangerous but so is a cat. I needed to know how it's dangerous not just it is that really doesn't tell me anything at all.

meme101

 

[von_z]

I am listening to everyone about not holding my little guy but all you guys were telling me that it's just fast and well yes dangerous but so is a cat. I needed to know how it's dangerous not just it is that really doesn't tell me anything at all.

meme101

O.K. it has one of the more potent venoms of the tarantula species. That doesn't mean it will kill you, but you will most likely have some very unpleasant results if you are bitten, and may even need to go to the hospital. H. macs are also more likely to bite than a lot of other tarantulas, which makes the fact that their venom is potent more relavent. The speed issue is more a concern for the safety of the animal. H. macs are fast, and they can jump. I'm sure that in your research, you have learned that a fall from any significant height is often fatal to a tarantula. Also, if it gets away from you and doesn't get injured, then it will be a lot harder to catch and return to its cage than a slower moving, more docile species.

So here is the short version. It's dangerous because it is venomous, potentially venomous enough to put you in the hospital, and it's one of the more aggressive species. The speed means that it is harder to avoid a bite, and it's harder to maintain control of the tarantula and keep it from hurting itself.

As long as you have all of that in mind, go ahead and pick it up. Good luck and let us know how it goes. If you don't get bitten, great. If you do get bitten, please post a bite report for the benefit of others.

 

[Hedorah99]

very good von. you could have saved yourself some time by using the multiquote function to point out all of her posts

another one makes the ignore list



you're welcome meme. i would like to say most of them *do* mean well. there execution just lacks a little

Must be hard trying to contribute to a forum with lots of different ideas and opinions when you ignore anyone who doesn't agree with you.

 

[Talkenlate04]

Must be hard trying to contribute to a forum with lots of different ideas and opinions when you ignore anyone who doesn't agree with you.

I think I heard a whip crack. Yes yes I did.

 

[AzJohn]

I am listening to everyone about not holding my little guy but all you guys were telling me that it's just fast and well yes dangerous but so is a cat. I needed to know how it's dangerous not just it is that really doesn't tell me anything at all.

meme101

How H mac is dangerous.

1.They are very fast and arboreal. They will go up instead of down. That means your back or your head.

2.They bite. They are more defensive than most.

3. The venom is more likely to send you to the hospital than almost any other tarantula.

I hope this helps.

We are all trying to help you. We want to keep you from making a mistake. Everyone on this thread wants you to enjoy tarantulas, and is willing to help. If you ask a question, you shouldn't ignore all of the answers just because it's not what you want to hear. You asked "Can I hold my H. maculata." We are doing the best we can to answer.

 

[7mary3]

I think I heard a whip crack. Yes yes I did.

^^^^ LMAO

and meme, if you want to know why or "how" the Heteroscodras are dangerous, then read the bite reports, like we've been telling you. If that still sounds like it's on the same level as a cat, then you must be living with lions.

 

[Stylopidae]

Hmmm...let's take a closer look at this thread: new member, semi-controversial subject (OW handling) for their first post which is constantly buoyed by their not so subtle inflammatory mannerisms aimed squarely at the select few who will take it personally.

Six pages in so far and nobody has yet thought to themselves 'Troll'?

Congratulations guys...you've been had.

Rainman and Dane Cook...I'm telling you, this is the reason.

 

[Pulk]

I've been thinking about that from the very beginning...

 

[Talkenlate04]

Hmmm...let's take a closer look at this thread: new member, semi-controversial subject (OW handling) for their first post which is constantly buoyed by their not so subtle inflammatory mannerisms aimed squarely at the select few who will take it personally.

Six pages in so far and nobody has yet thought to themselves 'Troll'?

Congratulations guys...you've been had.

Rainman and Dane Cook...I'm telling you, this is the reason.

Oh please lighten up and get over yourself. There was plenty of good advice. And I think the poster got the picture and took the advice. Ya sure it was mixed in with some sarcasm. But not every answer needs to been a scientific format and black and white.
It was somewhat amusing to picture someone wanting to hold one of those fast suckers.
Still I don't think we are anywhere near "Trolling".

 

[Stylopidae]

Oh please lighten up and get over yourself. There was plenty of good advice. And I think the poster got the picture and took the advice. Ya sure it was mixed in with some sarcasm.
But it was somewhat amusing to picture someone wanting to hold one of those fast suckers.
Still I don't think we are anywhere near "Trolling".

Did you even bother to read my post?

What exactly about that post made you think I was accusing anyone other than meme of being a troll?

Oh, by the way:

It's a bad idea...possible, but a bad idea. A very bad idea unless you know what you're doing and know your spider inside and out. Even then, bites still happen. They're painful and have far reaching consequences for the community if they require medical attention.

But it's obvious meme doesn't care what anyone else thinks and it's also blatant that he's trying to stir up a hornet's nest because ~20% of the posts in this thread are his...and he has more than twice as many posts as the next most numerous poster in this thread. He's keeping this thread alive for the sole reason of pissing people off.

 

[CedrikG]

When will you close that thread Goterps ? So boring

 

[Nich]

I still want to know.....

 

[von_z]

LOL...love the pic cheshire! It makes me want to hold my H. mac.............

 

[GoTerps]

Mine has pink toes (see right there on the back leg)... and I thought all pink toed species were pretty docile? :?

Eric the troll.

 

[Arachno_Shack]

Mine has pink toes (see right there on the back leg)... and I thought all pink toed species were pretty docile? :?

Eric the troll.

LMAO!

;P

 

[Talkenlate04]

Mine has pink toes (see right there on the back leg)... and I thought all pink toed species were pretty docile? :?

Eric the troll.

Now that is awesome :worship:

 

[DeTwan]

I understand that AB is here for all and that there are newbies to professional entomologist regarding member but 7 pages is getting ridiculous...

I think that if this person was going to be a vet then they would have a little more respect for the animal, and also not act like getting bit by an H mac would be that big of a deal. Honesty when some one acts like that I encourage them to hold the damn thing. This is done in hope that perhaps once bit this ignorant person will have learned a lesson and realize that every creature deserves respect.

I also think that it is memo's fault for not reading up on Ts and realize that this is not the best beginner T and definitely is not a T to handle for the faith of heart. I want a Siberian Husky but I'm doing my research and at this point in life I could get one and keep it all cooped up in a tinny apt or wait a few yrs and hope my living situations would be better suited for a dog like that. I dont want some crazy dog that will tear the sh*t out of my couch b/c I didnt run it 3 miles a day. And if I do decide that I want a sibe and think that I can "handle it", and one day I come home and my $900 couch is torn to sherds well I guess I got "bit" and learned my lesson. And if a dog torn the crap out of my couch I sure wouldnt tell anyone on the internet; I guess a bite from a H mac would be a little more interesting to write about so a detailed bite would be nice if you do get bit.

As for the subject of handling I find it rather inane to even read them more or less post in them. I guess the only reason I am posting is b/c I couldnt believe that a thread with a title like this could even get this big so I had to read. Well I guess I got my hopes up, but in the end it is like all the rest... we might as well argue over whether God exist:8o

Honestly I would much rather read and learn about other's thoughts on God and reasoning for mankind's existence that the justifications and negatives of holding a T.

If you own a T like this and dont realize the reprecusions behind it then every car salesman is gonna get sticker price out of you and you will put their kids through college... but then again that is the beauty of an ignorant population within a capitalist society... just dont come to my door with the cops saying that I told you to hold it!

Just my two cents.....