Can I hold my H. Maculata?

[Bothrops]

Sure, you can.
Now the question is: "Should I hold my H. maculata?". The answer would be: "No, you shouldn't."

 

[Niloticus]

Sure, you can.
Now the question is: "Should I hold my H. maculata?". The answer would be: "No, you shouldn't."

There you go. Nice and simply put. Let's not start an online war over something that a beginner to the hobby has questions about. It's inconsiderate and cynical.

Niloticus

 

[7mary3]

Cynical is not, ahem, the correct word, though I do appreciate the reference. Please refer to my second post and read what my concerns are. I'm not trying to start an "online fight", I am merely concerned that she will ultimately get discouraged by a bad bite from a spider that shouldn't be handled without TONS of experience, because nobody wins and nobody is happy in that circumstance.

 

[DrJ]

Sure, you can.
Now the question is: "Should I hold my H. maculata?". The answer would be: "No, you shouldn't."

Ah, yes...that is the real question! Yes, you "could" handle the maculata, but the simple answer is no, you "should" not. But, to handle is one's own personal decision. I've always found the risk far greater than the want-to! So, my H. mac has never been handled...but, if you feel the need, I'd suggest the Avic.

And, it is good to get some experience...as many first time bites with inexperienced people ends up with the T dead by way of throwing across the room, stomping..etc. So, it's best to be accustomed to Ts before going with something prone to bite.

 

[meme101]

Cynical is not, ahem, the correct word, though I do appreciate the reference. Please refer to my second post and read what my concerns are. I'm not trying to start an "online fight", I am merely concerned that she will ultimately get discouraged by a bad bite from a spider that shouldn't be handled without TONS of experience, because nobody wins and nobody is happy in that circumstance.

I'm going into a field where I'll get bit, scratched, and much more worse than a spider bite. I'm not saying that it wont do damage to me if I did get bit but saying that I'll be discouraged is something that would never happen.

meme101

 

[7mary3]

Ok, I can respect that, but please understand that being bitten by a cat or dog is not the same as being bitten by an H. Mac. Just read the bite reports and understand the risk. Further, please consider the risk to the Tarantula. They are a beautiful T, and it'd be a shame if anything happend to it. That being said, I wish you the best of luck.

 

[Meaningless End]

A Psalmopoeus irminia was recommended earlier, but I wouldn't recommend them unless you want to practice getting bit. Mine was fiestier than my H. mac and I considered it the scariest of all my Ts!

exactly... and thats kind of my whole point.. if you can handle a irmina at top speed without loosing it or getting tagged.. then i would say your ready for the old world crowd.

 

[Quixtar]

My first T was a very feisty H. lividum.

You can do it. Be careful and don't continue if you have a bad feeling about it.

 

[Drachenjager]

The closest I have ever been to being bit is when I thought what you are thinking. I was on the phone talking to a friend and unpacking a box with a cute little H. Mac. And before I could comprehend what the heck had happened it was up my leg and in the middle of my back. That was not the best situation ever and I think I was lucky I did not get bit.

I think they are faster then pokies. And that is saying something.

Light is a tad slower than pokies lol so that IS saying something lol

 

[NevularScorpion]

I held baby L mactans when i was packing them does that count ?

 

[kyrga]

First off, let me point out that a Heteroscodra maculata will NOT kill a person. Yes, the bite can be painful with a bunch of unwanted side-effects, but you will not die.

Just becuase there is no record of someone dying of a T bite, doesn't mean it can't happen. If you look at the effects a bite from some species can cause, someone with a weak heart could be in serious trouble.

The h. mac bite report section is pretty weak, but the bites have been compared to Stromatopelma, which I seem to remember there being a few more reports of, some quite bad.

I agree that an avic would be a good species for you to try handling. They're very "cute and cuddly", they're aboreal, so they're a bit more resilient to falls (which should still be avoided of course) and they're slow enough that you can keep them under control, yet fast enough to get a novice's adrenaline pumping, at least a little. Plus, if it does bite, you're looking at something probablt closer to a wasp sting.

 

[von_z]

Lets just end it here. Meme made up her mind before she even asked the question anyway. She has been warned by numerous people, but she is going to do it anyway. Just be careful meme and let us know how it goes.

 

[CedrikG]

The answer is simple and clear for that situation.

If you had experience with tarantula, well let say experience with this species, you would know if you can or not handle it.

If you need to ask, that show and prove you don't have enough knowledge about them to decide yourself, which mean you should NOT handle them.

 

[cacoseraph]

Lets just end it here. Meme made up her mind before she even asked the question anyway. She has been warned by numerous people, but she is going to do it anyway. Just be careful meme and let us know how it goes.

intersting. how exactly did you come to that conclusion?

i submit a great deal of you wrote meme off as some idiot thrill seeker without reading any of her subsequent posts


way to support a new hobbiest

 

[Skulnik]

Seriously, this thread has got to be joke. Of all the first Ts I could recommend, H Mac would be last on my list.

I love mine, but it stays in the cage until cleaning time.

Now if you want a REAL fun T to handle, get a P. cancerides.:liar:

 

[meme101]

intersting. how exactly did you come to that conclusion?

i submit a great deal of you wrote meme off as some idiot thrill seeker without reading any of her subsequent posts


way to support a new hobbiest

I'm not an idiot thrill seeker I was just trying to get an insight on the T but with what I'm getting out of everyone on here is that I'm stupid for chosing a dangerous T as my first one. Thanks for the support intime of need I now know that alot of people on here are only thinking of themselfs.

meme101

 

[Mushroom Spore]

what I'm getting out of everyone on here is that I'm stupid for chosing a dangerous T as my first one. Thanks for the support intime of need I now know that alot of people on here are only thinking of themselfs.

No, they're thinking of you choosing a dangerous T as your first and then trying to handle it. If they didn't care about your well-being, they'd have just told you to go ahead and mess with the spider all you liked.

 

[von_z]

intersting. how exactly did you come to that conclusion?

i submit a great deal of you wrote meme off as some idiot thrill seeker without reading any of her subsequent posts


way to support a new hobbiest

Well, heck. It's so cute and cuddly looking. It doesn't respond much to me when I put my hand in the tank and close to it. I've kinda bumped it's webbing and nothing has happened. Should I still try to hold it? I'd really like to get the feel of holding my first tarantula. I guess I'll see you in the bite section.

meme101

It's not very big yet. It was on the slower side when I unpacked it and it did not respond in an aggressive manner. Gosh, I don't know. It's just so cute and fuzzy!

meme101

The person at a local pet store sold it to me and someone identified it as a H. Mac. I don't like nice animals, I tend to go for the more ferocious ones that scratch, bite, sting, pinch, and growl. The field I am going into says it all. A Veterinarian!

meme101

Quote:
Originally Posted by Talkenlate04
Well you might want to be a Vet, but your still going to need a medic if you get bit.

That's what mums are for!

meme101

If I can handle a Nile crocodile with success and not being attacked, I do call myself pretty darn lucky. And I've encountered much scarier things in my life then a pesky tarantula. Hnn!

meme101

The pet store I purchased it at specializes in exotic pets, and after doing a bit of reading and research, the H. Mac is not an unusual species.. In fact, it's a hobby classic! Oh, and it's certainly a H. Mac! I am not saying that the person selling them is a rocket scientist, but not a complete idiot either.

meme101

I'm going into a field where I'll get bit, scratched, and much more worse than a spider bite. I'm not saying that it wont do damage to me if I did get bit but saying that I'll be discouraged is something that would never happen.

meme101

This is how I came to that conclusion. I read every post on this entire thread, and although meme seemed a couple of times like she was going to heed our advice, she continually returned to this theme. I don't think that she is an idiot or a thrill seeker. It just seemed that she only wanted advice if she got the answer that she wanted to hear. She had been cautioned and she can do what she wants.

 

[cacoseraph]

very good von. you could have saved yourself some time by using the multiquote function to point out all of her posts

another one makes the ignore list



you're welcome meme. i would like to say most of them *do* mean well. there execution just lacks a little

 

[arachnidgirl]

I'm not an idiot thrill seeker I was just trying to get an insight on the T but with what I'm getting out of everyone on here is that I'm stupid for chosing a dangerous T as my first one. Thanks for the support intime of need I now know that alot of people on here are only thinking of themselfs.

meme101

I don't think your stupid. You wanna hold your Tarantula, but what everyone is trying to tell you is that this particular T is not one that "should" be held. It is more of a pretty animal. You are definitely not and idiot

I don't think that people on here are looking out for JUST themselves. They are giving you some god advice. Your original thread was asking if you could hold your H. Mac and a lot of ppl have answered that for you. You could, but there could be an incident.

Try not to get upset or take things personal
We love to help new hobbiests. Heck I'm still new and I try to help as much as I can. I just ordered an H. Mac and I don't plan on holding it. I also ordered an A. Avic and am still thinking about holding that one
I hope this makes you feel a little better

Cheers