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Agreed! Would this be considered "trolling"?:?Good god this thread is a heap of crap. I seriously hope no sane people read this and take any of it as knowledge or good reference in a bite situation.
Agreed! Would this be considered "trolling"?:?Good god this thread is a heap of crap. I seriously hope no sane people read this and take any of it as knowledge or good reference in a bite situation.
So instead of dwelling on it, why not make the best of it and post your emergency kit and what you would doand to see people wishing this fate on others is disquisting. if the op did get bit and believed a benedryl and stiff drink would help so be it, and when you wish bad things upon me for saying that remember,your also wishing ill will on rob c. cus he was bit by a pokie and thats exactly what he did.... think about that one. im sad to be a member of this board right now : (
actually, for bees and ppl with severe allergies to them you need to get stung once to be sensitized and then the NEXT sting can trigger anaplylactic shock (which is the ONLY time i know of epipens being medically indicated)Well you don't just somehow develop an allergy to something out of nowhere, so I doubt that if you were stung by a bee again you would feel anything different than when you first got stung.
There is some pretty good info in there...I admit I did the wrong thing....cacoseraph has some very good info in there and has taught me to study the venom and effects and also the drugs you mix....they can be deadly....I do trust cacoseraph advice...he at least has some experience and facts to back-up what he is saying.also, thoth... there was a girl who had something like 25% elevated IgE level a weak after she was bit by a pokie. of course, i don't know how you could differentiate that from "regular" allergies... espeically a WEEK after the bite... but the "no evidence of allergic response" tagline is no longer 100% true. i believe their is a ref in the rob c thread
I don't know about you but I'll take any opportunity to wish ill on Rob, LOL! j/kwhen you wish bad things upon me for saying that remember,your also wishing ill will on rob c.
most vicodin these days are a tiny amount of hydrocodone paired with 200+ mg of ibuprofen (ooh, could that be a synergistic reaction? i think so ). to my understanding, the hydrocodone is the one you would potentially have to worry about... but as i said it is a TINY dose per pill. most american beer is about as strong as my piss after a good night drinking. combining a relatively small amount of hydrocodone with a relatively small amount of alcohol and you probably won't see much happen. probably.If I get bit I'll take a vicodin or two, have a couple of beers and notate the reactions and pain. Not scared in the least.
I swear, it's like some of you never lived through the rave phase
As an ex-hots keepers, I'd never recommend mixing venomous and drinking. Real venom and alcohol can be a potent mix. Also with venomous you have to consider the chances of venom sensitivity and anaphylaxis even if you've never been bitten before.and to be honest, in venoms that don't seem to have neuro effects i personally do drink some. but this is because i did enough research to feel comfortable that the alcohol and venom wouldn't synergize on me. it is still not a sure thing... but i did do enough research to have some weak form of an informed opinion
I have seen the paper. That is no indication of correlation. First it is the only such mention of such an elevation. Second like you mentioned it was measured a week later, which in the meanwhile anything could have caused it. Also if she was given cortisone to treat any symptoms, it is known to cause an increase in IgE levels. So I am still not convinced, if further proof is published I am willing to concede and admit I was mistaken, till then I stand by my original assertion....
also, thoth... there was a girl who had something like 25% elevated IgE level a weak after she was bit by a pokie. of course, i don't know how you could differentiate that from "regular" allergies... espeically a WEEK after the bite... but the "no evidence of allergic response" tagline is no longer 100% true. i believe their is a ref in the rob c thread