CutThroat Kid
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Hydrochoerus hydrochaeris. They never appealed to me like they do everyone else tbh.
E. pachypus is literally the only tarantula I would break my $50 rule for. I would empty my 401K to get my hands on a few slings, especially since they’re impossible to find these days. In my personal opinion they’re just cooler than cool with those pencil thick legs. P. muticus on the other hand, meh. Even with their thick back legs I’m not interested even though they’re generally a more impressive spider (you also don’t see them for sale as much as they used to be). Not sure why I prefer one to the other, but I do.E. pachypus. I’ve only ever seen ONE of those personally in 15 years of keeping and I think I can guess why. They don’t grow very large, the grow slow I presume, are drably colored, and they’re fossorial. The epitome of boring.
If we’re talking more popular Ts I’m not so sure I’d take a P. muticus unless it was an already large yet barely mature female. I don’t like the idea of waiting until I’m a retiree to watch a sling grow lol. Same deal with Aphonopelma unless I can get a decent sized specimen.
I love both my LPs tho. The big one never hides and even the juvie doesn’t spend as much time hiding away since it’s last molt.
My two muticus slings have proven to be some of my most entertaining spiders in my collection. Yes, they dig a lot, but my duo are always out at the tunnel entrance/s or right out in the open. Even when I spoke them by opening their enclosures they're quick to pop back up, even before I drop a feeder in. Maybe they'll get mote reclusive as they get bigger, but that hasn't been my experience with them so far.P. muticus on the other hand, meh. Even with their thick back legs I’m not interested even though they’re generally a more impressive spider (you also don’t see them for sale as much as they used to be). Not sure why I prefer one to the other, but I do.
I think fossorials are cool .. pet holes !My two muticus slings have proven to be some of my most entertaining spiders in my collection. Yes, they dig a lot, but my duo are always out at the tunnel entrance/s or right out in the open. Even when I spoke them by opening their enclosures they're quick to pop back up, even before I drop a feeder in. Maybe they'll get mote reclusive as they get bigger, but that hasn't been my experience with them so far.
For some reason I've had relatively good luck with seeing fossorials in action while also still having them build elaborate tunnels and such.
they’re not cobra dangerous or anything just more high strung and bitey . I’ve had some id call docile and skittish.I’d never handle them except a few pokies on accident i don’t have any ow atm.To be honest, no Old World species at all. I'm not into handling any of my T's, but just the thought of being bitten by that genre is enough to keep me away. A bee sting I can handle, convulsions or worse? Nope, nope, nope. I'll happily continue to view them from afar.
Thank you! Exactly, T seladonia is overrated to hell and back lol. They're a tiny T that you'll never see (it even rhymes) because they're trapdoor spiders. If you want a blue T that's bigger and more likely to be visible get a P sazimai a B albiceps or a GBB.I want to raise every species at some point, but “for right now” I have zero interest in raising an H. maculata, S. calceatum, and T. seladonia (which is unbelievably overrated, this is one species that if I never keep one it’s no big deal).
I'd say no tarantulas are 'pets' in the conventional sense, as they aren't ever to be petted. If you're going to argue that a spider has the cognitive ability to appreciate being held or harassed by its owner, then I guess it's a disagreement that we'll just have to live with because you'll never change my (and many other people's) mind. They're aquarium animals to be kept for observation and to be appreciated from outside the confines of their enclosures.Speaking of blue tarantulas one more thing I have 0 interest in keeping is the Cobalt blue and any species comparable to it (fossorial, crazy, medically significant venom). They're just not meant to be pets. While it definitely isn't as crazy as the avg person keeping a hyena in their apartment, it's almost as bad an idea for most folks for different reasons. You're keeping an animal that if provided with decent husbandry will almost never be visible, and when it is visible it'll try to murder you whenever you try to do something as simple as changing or refilling their water dish. In case you do get tagged, you'll have to deal with medically significant venom. Don't get me wrong I certainly appreciate these animals but I feel like admiring them from a distance if you're ever lucky enough to see them in their natural habitat is a far better idea than keeping them as pets.
What??If you're going to argue that a spider has the cognitive ability to appreciate being held or harassed by its owner, then I guess it's a disagreement that we'll just have to live with because you'll never change my (and many other people's) mind.
Couldn't agree more! I don't get the fascination of wanting to hold a T....it's just not a natural thing to do. Furthering the fish analogy, would you take a fish out of a tank to hold it or would you do the proper thing and admire their beauty through the glass of their enclosure? Taking them out of their natural habitat (water) could possibly kill it, same with T's, all of them. Just sit back, grab some popcorn, and enjoy the magnificent view, it's the smart thing to doI'd say no tarantulas are 'pets' in the conventional sense, as they aren't ever to be petted. If you're going to argue that a spider has the cognitive ability to appreciate being held or harassed by its owner, then I guess it's a disagreement that we'll just have to live with because you'll never change my (and many other people's) mind. They're aquarium animals to be kept for observation and to be appreciated from outside the confines of their enclosures.
That being said, most fossorials I've owned are out fairly often.
While I am not opposed to handling, I don't necessarily want a T that I can hold, I just don't want something that's hiding most of the time and when it's out it wants to kill me for merely refilling the water dish. If you do get tagged it's medically significant venom you're dealing with. It's a fantasy to think that Ts are either 1000% passive things that you can handle or angry pet holes like a cobalt blue with nothing in between.. the majority of Ts are in between and they are far better suited to being kept as pets (imho) than a cobalt blue.Couldn't agree more! I don't get the fascination of wanting to hold a T....it's just not a natural thing to do. Furthering the fish analogy, would you take a fish out of a tank to hold it or would you do the proper thing and admire their beauty through the glass of their enclosure? Taking them out of their natural habitat (water) could possibly kill it, same with T's, all of them. Just sit back, grab some popcorn, and enjoy the magnificent view, it's the smart thing to do
What??
When did I say anything even remotely close to this??
This isn't what you keep Ts for, and I already mentioned in other threads what the best pet Ts have in common (in my opinion): good display species, stay out and about, fairly hardy, eat well, no medically significant venom, not super defensive etc.
Almost none of the above applies to old world fossorials (like C lividus). It's not like you have to have a T with the personality of a cuddle bug parrot or C lividus and nothing in between.
Alright, fair enough. I was making quite the jump there in your possible line of arguing, I admit lol.While I am not opposed to handling, I don't necessarily want a T that I can hold, I just don't want something that's hiding most of the time and when it's out it wants to kill me for merely refilling the water dish. If you do get tagged it's medically significant venom you're dealing with. It's a fantasy to think that Ts are either 1000% passive things that you can handle or angry pet holes like a cobalt blue with nothing in between.. the majority of Ts are in between and they are far better suited to being kept as pets (imho) than a cobalt blue.
C lividus I’ve avoided but lack of urt hairs I’d definitely consider one . Despite their supposed ferociousness. Pet hole though ..What??
When did I say anything even remotely close to this??
This isn't what you keep Ts for, and I already mentioned in other threads what the best pet Ts have in common (in my opinion): good display species, stay out and about, fairly hardy, eat well, no medically significant venom, not super defensive etc.
Almost none of the above applies to old world fossorials (like C lividus). It's not like you have to have a T with the personality of a cuddle bug parrot or C lividus and nothing in between.