The best Asian Arboreal species (Pokies not included) and why?

[Butterbean83]

Just doing a poll to find out what people think are the best Asian Arboreals, for beauty (I know it's subjective but interesting to see everyone's views and maybe find out about some I've maybe not seen or read about)... What species are on display more (In aware most Asian Arboreals are shy and reclusive but there are one or two species that you see out a little bit as I own a Phormingochilus sp Ackaya and I know they like to venture out, be interesting to hear the odd species that does) and just any that have a unique behaviour or temperament.

I will name some species I've read about on the poll and either vote for them and comment why or if a different species please comment the species and why.

Thankyou

 

[viper69]

Avicularia!

 

[Butterbean83]

Avicularia!

 

[Mustafa67]

Just doing a poll to find out what people think are the best Asian Arboreals, for beauty (I know it's subjective but interesting to see everyone's views and maybe find out about some I've maybe not seen or read about)... What species are on display more (In aware most Asian Arboreals are shy and reclusive but there are one or two species that you see out a little bit as I own a Phormingochilus sp Ackaya and I know they like to venture out, be interesting to hear the odd species that does) and just any that have a unique behaviour or temperament.

I will name some species I've read about on the poll and either vote for them and comment why or if a different species please comment the species and why.

Thankyou

Out of my experience the only one on your list I have is a Phormingochilus sp rufus and I love this one. But the Cyriopagopus sp valhalla has always been on my wishlist it looks a stunning T.

 

[xenesthis]

Lampropelma (ex-Phormingochilus) carpenteri : FAST growth, incredible SIZE (8.75"-9"+), feisty (keeps you on your focus game and toes), and relative rarity in the U.S. hobby. This is a very underappreciated species that everybody wants when it's not available and then when it's available, hobbyists don't appreciate the fact that it's rarely breed and made available. Feast or famine species in the hobby.

 

[Butterbean83]

Great point they certainly are Beautiful

 

[Tentacle Toast]

I voted for the hati hati, because I just got one a few weeks back, it's an interesting little spider (makes some interesting little burrows), it should grow to be a rather attractive spider, & it's the only one on the list I have personal experience with...

 

[Butterbean83]

I voted for the hati hati, because I just got one a few weeks back, it's an interesting little spider (makes some interesting little burrows), it should grow to be a rather attractive spider, & it's the only one on the list I have personal experience with...

I have had one and didn't see it much but she was a beautiful T. I moved it on as I wanted one I could see a little more. I think I overdid the leaf litter, twigs, moss and Cork Bark and probably would have seen it a little more so I'm honestly thinking of taking on my friend's Hati Hati she doesn't want. It's not my favourite though. I didn't include Pokies in this poll as I have a regalis and I know most species of Pokies are out a fair bit and we know most people love them, myself included. I can't wait to see my P sp Ackaya when that get's bigger.

Lampropelma (ex-Phormingochilus) carpenteri : FAST growth, incredible SIZE (8.75"-9"+), feisty (keeps you on your focus game and toes), and relative rarity in the U.S. hobby. This is a very underappreciated species that everybody wants when it's not available and then when it's available, hobbyists don't appreciate the fact that it's rarely breed and made available. Feast or famine species in the hobby.

I also meant to say. Thanks for the heads up taxonomically as I wasn't sure if it was Lampropelma then Phormingochilus or Phormingochilus then Lampropelma as people seem to use the Genus names interchangeably.

I am definitely going to look into this one. Are these out a bit on display sometimes? They look like stunners. Are they a little more predictable than H Mac and S calceatum? I don't mind spicy if you know where the T's are gonna be. I have 2 different colour forms of P murinus and also S javanensis, So I'm used to speed, I have the P regalis large sling, the Phormingochilus sp Ackaya sling, Psalmopeus reduncus large sling next molt will possibly be a Juvenile T, G iheringi Juvie which is probably my most Docile T. So many beautiful Asian Arboreals to choose from but not many you see out even a little bit haha.

 

[xenesthis]

I also meant to say. Thanks for the heads up taxonomically as I wasn't sure if it was Lampropelma then Phormingochilus or Phormingochilus then Lampropelma as people seem to use the Genus names interchangeably.

I am definitely going to look into this one. Are these out a bit on display sometimes? They look like stunners. Are they a little more predictable than H Mac and S calceatum? I don't mind spicy if you know where the T's are gonna be. I have 2 different colour forms of P murinus and also S javanensis, So I'm used to speed, I have the P regalis large sling, the Phormingochilus sp Ackaya sling, Psalmopeus reduncus large sling next molt will possibly be a Juvenile T, G iheringi Juvie which is probably my most Docile T. So many beautiful Asian Arboreals to choose from but not many you see out even a little bit haha.

Leggy and FAST, so you need to make precautions in your transfer and maintenance activities. Not a great "display" species you will see all the time like Pamphobeteus sp., but not a species that you don't see more many months like fossorial, obligate burrowing species. For what you have kept, they would be like keeping your Akcaya.

 

[NMTs]

From this list I would say Phormingochilus sp. Ackaya or P. everetti:

0.1 Phormingochilus everetti - 6.75" DLS

• NMTs
• Mar 10, 2024
• everetti female phormingochilus phormingochilus everetti

Rehoused Jupiter today and was able to get a good measurement of her - she's really just a hair...

This big girl is gravid right now so I don't see her much, but when she isn't, she is almost always out at the top of her burrow waiting for something to kill...

What you don't have listed that I would suggest are Phormingochilus sp. Sabah blue - mine are juveniles/sub-adults and they are always out.

 

[Tentacle Toast]

I have had one and didn't see it much but she was a beautiful T. I moved it on as I wanted one I could see a little more. I think I overdid the leaf litter, twigs, moss and Cork Bark and probably would have seen it a little more so I'm honestly thinking of taking on my friend's Hati Hati she doesn't want. It's not my favourite though. I didn't include Pokies in this poll as I have a regalis and I know most species of Pokies are out a fair bit and we know most people love them, myself included. I can't wait to see my P sp Ackaya when that get's bigger.

How long did you keep it for? I guess they lose the tendency to disappear as they age, from what I understand. I'll always provide for it what it needs to thrive but I will actively discourage it from excessively burrowing if it seems to retain the preference into adulthood...

 

[Butterbean83]

A few months and I think I saw it properly once and caught a glimpse but I hadn't been in the hobby all that long then and I think I overdid it with the decor as I had just been to a local invert show, well, not too far away compared to others. The plastic container I used was a little opaque too but I could see it if it would have been out. I think I would get one again. My friend has an adult female she doesn't want so I may keep that. She said when she first got that it was out a fair bit to be fair. I know they're very fast haha. A stunning species but some seem to be different shades than others.

 

[xenesthis]

From this list I would say Phormingochilus sp. Ackaya or P. everetti:

0.1 Phormingochilus everetti - 6.75" DLS

• NMTs
• Mar 10, 2024
• everetti female phormingochilus phormingochilus everetti

Rehoused Jupiter today and was able to get a good measurement of her - she's really just a hair...

This big girl is gravid right now so I don't see her much, but when she isn't, she is almost always out at the top of her burrow waiting for something to kill...

What you don't have listed that I would suggest are Phormingochilus sp. Sabah blue - mine are juveniles/sub-adults and they are always out.

Yes! Like Everetti. Rare in the U.S. hobby to see pics of sub-adults or adults. I'd like to see someone post a female over 7" in leg span.

How long did you keep it for? I guess they lose the tendency to disappear as they age, from what I understand. I'll always provide for it what it needs to thrive but I will actively discourage it from excessively burrowing if it seems to retain the preference into adulthood...

Phormingochilus spp. are timid and want to hide when young, but as sub-adults/adults, they get full of themselves, show themselves more, and become "bold". This is when they will give you their "Heil Hilter" threat display to let you know they run the show.

 

[fcat]

Lampropelma carpenteri

 

[xenesthis]

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Lampropelma carpenteri

Awesome T!

 

[fcat]

Awesome T!

They really are something else! Such a commanding presence. This young lady is only about 6.5"...and has been tapping since I got her out of the box...so I haven't seen much personality beyond that. And it is so loud! Poor thing. I'd say more about them but not until my paycheck posts

(can confirm they are hard to come by but you guys definitely know a guy ^)

 

[Butterbean83]

If anyone has a few, a lot, or all of those Ts Id love to see their pics

 

[NMTs]

If anyone has a few, a lot, or all of those Ts Id love to see their pics

I've got 5 of the species listed.

You've seen my P. everetti above, but here is another one of her:

0.1 Phormingochilus everetti - 6.5"+ DLS

• NMTs
• Feb 5, 2024
• 4
• adult female everetti phormingochilus phormingochilus everetti

Jupiter is out for her first meal post-molt. She got BIG...

Here's P. sp. Akcaya, in shock immediately after rehousing:

And after she's gotten more settled in, lol:


My C. sp. Valhalla, P. sp. rufus, and P. arboricola are all either too shy or too small to get decent pics of.

@l4nsky likely has decent pics of at least a few of the ones on the list...

 

[Butterbean83]

Thankyou. Awesome pics. Also @lansky I'd love to see them if you have any photos of them.

 

[l4nsky]

Lol I only have 4 of the listed species (everetti, Akcaya, hati hati, and rufus). Of those 4, I really only have good pics of the Akcaya's.

0.1 Phormingochilus sp. Akcaya

• l4nsky
• Mar 20, 2024
• 8
• akcaya female mature phormingochilus phormingochilus sp akcaya

Undescribed species from West Kalimantan province, Indonesia on the island of Borneo. Proven female

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• l4nsky
• Nov 24, 2022
• akcaya female mature female phormingochilus phormingochilus sp "akcaya"

MF Phormingochilus sp Akcaya feeling confident and relaxing in the open now that it's lights out.