Testing Steatoda Triangulosa asexual reproduction theroy

[Charliemum]

Can't get into the window without breaking it. Hopefully they disperse soon. I believe the renovations are a few weeks away.

Hopefully that few weeks will give them time! I wish there was something I could do.
Come on Bubbas and Momma we need you to move !

It makes me mad. If you approach the owner with concern about the spiders in their windows, they;d probably think you were a loon. "What kinda weirdo is looking at spiders in our windows? We should probably keep an eye on this person". SMDH. I hate those people, yes I hate them, because it actually IS their fault, they have the option of education and learning about the animals they live with and they willfully choose ignorance. Its their choice to be ignorant, and its my choice to hate them.

Makes me sad poor spiders have probably lived on that property longer then the owners , mommas mommas momma probably hung about the same wooden frames .
People are stupid, happy in their ignorance, some will seek to expand that knowledge but i found most don't and stay in their safety bubble sticking to the easy uninformed life they choose to follow , it's why I ignore most ppl .

 

[Godsmack1934]

Week 4 (I think) E1:
Same as the previous week, however, a large portion seems to have migrated closer to the wall of the egg sac.

Week 3 (I think) E2:
Same as the previous week.

 

[CRX]

Week 4 (I think) E1:
Same as the previous week, however, a large portion seems to have migrated closer to the wall of the egg sac.

Week 3 (I think) E2:
Same as the previous week.

They do take awhile to hatch, anywhere from 4 to 6, 7 weeks in my experience

 

[Godsmack1934]

Important Update!!!
At some point lastnight E1 hatched!! This is very exciting news, and after I conclude on E2 and E3 if anyone would be interested I'll link the document with my findings.

 

[Godsmack1934]

Updates:

E2:
Has the same appearance that E1 did before hatching, and will likely hatch soon.

E3:
Has the appearance of small orange spheres wrapped in a layer of silk.



Sling update from E1:

All slings appear to be healthy, they haven't started cannibalizing yet, I do plan on raising them.

 

[CRX]

Important Update!!!
At some point lastnight E1 hatched!! This is very exciting news, and after I conclude on E2 and E3 if anyone would be interested I'll link the document with my findings.

Somehow I didnt see this until now. I was gonna say, my sac is close to hatching, and she also laid a new one yesterday. These guys are very very prolific. COngrats on the hatch!!!

 

[Godsmack1934]

Week 6 (probably) E2
Eggs have the same appearance as E1 did before hatching.

Week 5 ish E3
Eggs have the same appearance as both E2 and E1 did in their earlier stages


I'm keeping track of days as opposed to weeks in my documentation so I apologize if my weeks are off a bit.

 

[CRX]

How are the slings from E1 doing?

 

[Godsmack1934]

How are the slings from E1 doing?

Their doing really good!

 

[Godsmack1934]

E2 update:

At some point last night E2 hatched producing approx. 25 slings, I plan to keep them for a couple of days before granting them freedom.

 

[Godsmack1934]

Probably final week E3:

All eggs have the appearance E1 and E2 did right before hatching (significantly darker in color).

E1 and E2 slings:

Both sets of slings are doing well, E1 slings are not yet big enough to separate, but they are growing fast.

 

[CRX]

So at this point, would you all agree its safe to say this species IS very likely parthenogenic? I think the evidence we have is clear + other posters have also said this for years.

 

[Godsmack1934]

So at this point, would you all agree its safe to say this species IS very likely parthenogenic? I think the evidence we have is clear + other posters have also said this for years.

Maybe not the entire species of Steatoda, but Triangulosa are most likely parthenogenic.

 

[CRX]

Maybe not the entire species of Steatoda, but Triangulosa are most likely parthenogenic.

Thats what I meant, yeah. I wonder if it has implications for the whole genus tho

 

[Godsmack1934]

Thats what I meant, yeah. I wonder if it has implications for the whole genus tho

I'd be curious about that too.

 

[katamari]

Just wanted to say this is really neat! I've never kept S. triangulosa but I've had quite a few take up residence in my garage window and lay sac after sac - it always makes me chuckle when suddenly the slings are paragliding all over the place. How cool that they might be reproducing asexually!