Tell me about the "Ephebopus cyanognathus"

[PhilMcWonder]

I want to know more about them. Beautiful T that I want to ad to my collection in the future.

 

[Vanisher]

They have blue chelicarea until they are udults. I think the blue color disapears? They are in the Avicularia subfamily!, but lives in burrows in the ground and not in trees!? They should be housed with Deep moist sub, mixed with leafs. (I used a Peat/leaf mix for a E murinus.) These guys are obligate burrowers and lining ther burrows heavy with silk! There is no partucular need to have any decor! But it doesnt hurt eigher! They can be very defenssive!
Very cool genus! Why peat mixed with leaf one may ask? Cos they incorperate it in there burrow construction. Just throwing in some cocofibre doesnt work uf you ask me! I suggest a mix of 60-70% moist peat and 30-40% leafs!

 

[The Grym Reaper]

Mine was never really defensive (although they can be), they are stupidly fast and skittish though.

They can behave arboreally as slings but will eventually burrow as they get larger (mine thought he was an Avic for his first couple of moults).

Keep them on deep/moist sub, put a couple of anchor points outside of the hide/burrow entrance and sprinkle some moss/leaf litter around the enclosure (they incorporate this into their webbing).

The fangs are bright blue as slings but start to turn purple as they get larger, they grow pretty fast (my male hooked out after 1 year) and don't get that large IIRC (my male was 3" before hooking out).

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They are in the Avicularia genus

Huh? They're in the Psalmopoeinae subfamily with all the other bridge genera (Psalmos/Tappies/Pseudos).

 

[Vanisher]

Have they been moved??? I havnt been in the hobby as much as i where 10 years ago! It is the last year or so i have been diving into the hobby again! Wasnt Ephebopus in Avicularinae subfamily before?

 

[The Grym Reaper]

Have they been moved??? I havnt been in the hobby as much as i where 10 years ago! It is the last year or so i have been diving into the hobby again! Wasnt Ephebopus in Avicularinae subfamily before?

They were moved with the Tapinauchenius revision last year

 

[lazarus]

Just throwing in some cocofibre doesnt work uf you ask me!

I keep all my Ephebopus on coco fiber and they do fine. Substrate needs to be kept moist especially for slings.

It is the last year or so i have been diving into the hobby again! Wasnt Ephebopus in Avicularinae subfamily before?

Psalmopeus, Ephebopus, Tapinauchenius and the newly described genus Pseudoclamoris are now in the (re-established) Psalmopoeinae subfamily https://zookeys.pensoft.net/article/26521/

 

[Minty]

Seeing the blue chelicerae is actually quite a rare sight. I’ve had mine 10 months, from being a teeny tiny sling. It is now 4.5cm DLS.

Spends most of its time burrowed. I will agree that they are fast as hell. Just this week, I opened the lid to feed it, only for it to immediately zoom out and sprint down the side of my desk and on to the floor. It was like watching a small dark coloured dot bolt. Never seen any defensive behaviour from mine. Quite a good eater. I keep mine on moist sub. The picture is just after a moult when I had freshly wet the sub after it had gone dry.

 

[viper69]

Have they been moved??? I havnt been in the hobby as much as i where 10 years ago! It is the last year or so i have been diving into the hobby again! Wasnt Ephebopus in Avicularinae subfamily before?

More than 10 yrs ago they were not in the Avic genus as you originally mentioned. They still had the same genus name.

I want to know more about them. Beautiful T that I want to ad to my collection in the future.

They are the most nervous NW species I’ve ever owned, and exceedingly fast. Rarely observed, prettiet pet hole you’ll rarely see.

They will pop out of burrows to get food.

They also have urticating setae on their blue chelicerae. I believe the only species to be like this.
Blue turns to violet in adults, particularly females.

 

[Clareesi]

They're definitely pet holes but when they do show themselves they are super cool. Mine is still a sling but even as a sling they're beautiful-has a gorgeous, emerald green abdomen and the cutest of tiny blue "fangs" lol. I cant speak for speed, all slings just seem super speedy to me. Definitely give plenty of substrate to burrow in.

 

[Vanisher]

More than 10 yrs ago they were not in the Avic genus as you originally mentioned. They still had the same genus name.

They where not??

 

[viper69]

They where not??

They were. I’ve only bought them with their current genus. They were not in Avic genus. First bought one in 2005, and before that a few years, same genus.

 

[Vanisher]

Yes of course! But i meant that they where Ephebopus genus, but the genus Ephebopus was in the subfamily Aviculariinae

 

[viper69]

They are in the Avicularia genus

Yes of course! But i meant that they where Ephebopus genus, but the genus Ephebopus was in the subfamily Aviculariinae

That is not what you typed at all. I specifically typed genus in my responses, so you clearly weren't paying attention...or you don't know.... see..above.

 

[Vanisher]

Of course i know that Ephebopus is a genus!! Ephebopus=genus murinus= speicies! What i initially meant was that i thought Ephebopus belonged in the Aviculariinae subfamily! I thought that was pretty clear what i meant?

Then if Ephebopus never belonged to Aviculariinae subfamily, thats a diffrent story!

 

[Vanisher]

Sorry Viper69! I saw that i wrote Avicularia genus! I thought that i wrote subfamily. I miss typed! I corrected it now! Sorry!!

 

[The Grym Reaper]

They also have urticating setae on their blue chelicerae. I believe the only species to be like this.

The urticating setae are on the pedipalps, Ephebopus are the only genus to have this.

 

[viper69]

The urticating setae are on the pedipalps, Ephebopus are the only genus to have this.

Crap, I always switch that one up, you know when I wrote that, I thought "that looks wrong", but I had to run and figured my goof would be caught...Much appreciated. They are the only genus on this that is more accurate.

 

[laservet]

Hooked out?

 

[Andrea82]

I loved mine, unfortunately it turned out to be a male and I sold it.
Mine was actually quite visible, every night i could see two feet and the stunning blue chelicerae at the mouth of the burrow. Very skittish.

@The Grym Reaper
As far as I know it is not only cyanognathus that has the urticating hairs on the pedipalps, murinus and rufescens as well...

Good thread to show this off again, video is not mine:

 

[viper69]

@Brad Smith What's the issue w/my post you disliked? I didn't write anything that was factually wrong.