Tarantulas Banned

[robc]

i mean look at pit bulls. not all are bad..but look at the crap they deal with.

Totally agree, it is all media <edit> ...they make the dogs out to be some kinda monster when in reality they are not, 68% of so called "Pit attacks" are not even pitbulls, they are other dogs with a big head...that way over 150 lbs LOL. Pitbulls are 4th on the bottom on bite reports and have a temperment sxcore of 88.7%, wich is higher than a lab retriever. Most do not ebven know what a true pitbull looks like, they are not 120-150 lbs...they are in the range from 60-80 and 80 being very high, like my boy Titus (70Lbs)

Here is what a true American Pitbull terrier looks like!

Sure looks mean

 

[Xian]

I wouldn't say it's irrational or excessive. It's people who care about their hobby and are aware of what is happening. Personally, I think being an owner of exotic pets, it's your responsibility to stay well-informed of what's going on instead of turning a blind eye to it and pretending everything is okay.

It's not paranoia, it's awareness.

Cass

That's what I am trying to do Cass, raise my awareness, and be better informed. Sorry to all those that thought otherwise.

 

[Arachnopets]

It is illegal to own/sell tarantulas within the 5 boroughs of NYC (Manhattan, Brooklyn, Queens, Bronx and Staten Island).

http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/downloads/pdf/zoo/zoo-animal-healthcode.pdf


Under "Health Code § 161.01 Wild animals prohibited" scroll to number 13:

"(a) No person shall sell or give to another person, possess, harbor or keep wild animals identified in subsection (b) of this section ..."

"(13) Arachnida and Chilopoda: All venomous spiders, including, but not limited to, tarantula, black widow and solifugid; scorpion; all venomous arthropods including, but not limited to, centipede."

Debby

 

[Xian]

Thanks for that Debby. This is actually turning out to be a bit more widespread than I had imagined. I wonder how many other city's have similar laws that we are unaware of?

 

[Maurelius]

How can the self-inflicted be regulated?

 

[Avicularia Man]

Wow, that makes me happy I don't live in New York.

 

[VESPidA]

hahahah best post on this thread ive seen so far

haha, you just named my next spidey

edit: paranoia, that is. quoted the wrong person

 

[Teal]

As someone who has been involved with American pit bull terriers for years - I know about legislation and the government being against you.

Prevention is key.

You have to stand up from the start, and make sure things don't go downhill.
Unfortunately, with my dogs' breed, it's too late... and now we're fighting an insurmountable battle trying to clear their name.

The same thing could EASILY happen to the tarantula keeping hobby, if people don't watch their step. This isn't some reckless, fun game with no consequences... the government practically sits around, reading the papers, trying to figure out what to ban next.

 

[endoflove]

marriage is worse than any T' venom.... (im being sarcastic)

 

[Ranty]

You would be surprised at the reaction a parent has when their child, or teenager is injured by a animal. Some parents would of course use common sense and treat the injury and hope their kid gets some knowledge from the whole affair. But, some parents would start a roller coaster of crap with the media and local government, just to be in the spot light, or they think they are a leader and choose to start a crusade to rid the planet of the thing that caused the injury for the betterment of humanity.

One example is the Pit bulls, another is the Australian funnel web spiderand and another yet is of course the Python. All have seen a lot of press and high lights on the news. People fear, but never take the time to learn or understand the nature of so called beast.

Knowledge is power, and understanding is key in dealing with any animal. Even experts who have dealt with Tarantulas for over 10 to 20 years still will get bit due to carelessness. They dropped their guard and got tagged.

Being worried about the future of this hobby is natural. None of us would like to have the Police invade our home and remove the animals we love and take care of due to the lack of knowledge and fear of several parents who got the world in an up roar due to their idiot kid showing off his new pet to his friends and got tagged.

So we who are in this to the end are encouraged to teach and share that knowledge of this hobby. We aren't building plastic models here.

Trust me... Do you really think a Politician gives a damn about a tarantula and the people who care for them. We are few, in a world of paranoid people who base their decisions from News on TV. A Politician would love the chance to be on TV to fight and make laws. To be in the spot light so he can be re-elected next term.

Its not being paranoid, its being pro-active instead of being re-active. Don't just sit there and wait till something happens. Share the knowledge and try to educate people so when someone does get bitten no one will panic, the media won't have fuel for the fire, and the Politician would get more crap for being stupid if he went after it.

Ok, I'm done my lecture..... lol

Vote for me in 2012 people

:clap: Ranty for President :clap:

 

[Sunset]

the only reason why the reptiles hobby is like that because. a big python got lose and ate a baby. and then people in FL just let those snakes go and there having babies and nows its a big deal in FL The state hires people to go down in Southern FL to catch pythons and kill them. I have not heard anything about this hobby.

 

[micheldied]

It's already happened here.
Pretty much no invertebrate or reptile is legal to keep here.
The government gives reasons like "they're dangerous" or "they'll destroy our natural ecology",which is pretty much already screwed up anyway.

 

[Blitz]

the only reason why the reptiles hobby is like that because. a big python got lose and ate a baby. and then people in FL just let those snakes go and there having babies and nows its a big deal in FL The state hires people to go down in Southern FL to catch pythons and kill them. I have not heard anything about this hobby.

A python got loose but it didn't eat a baby. It killed one.

People didn't just let their snakes loose it happened mostly when the hurricanes hit. I am sure some did leave theirs loose but the biggest problem started from zoo's and stores when the hurricane came through and demolished things.

As far as the T hobby goes, if they start banning reptiles it's only a matter of time before they come after this one. People fear what they don't understand and they don't want to get to know spiders or snakes.

 

[dtknow]

We should ban cats because they are very prolific...it could become a big problem...:wallbut they are cute and fuzzy)

 

[fangsalot]

It is illegal to own/sell tarantulas within the 5 boroughs of NYC (Manhattan, Brooklyn, Queens, Bronx and Staten Island).

http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/downloads/pdf/zoo/zoo-animal-healthcode.pdf


Under "Health Code § 161.01 Wild animals prohibited" scroll to number 13:

"(a) No person shall sell or give to another person, possess, harbor or keep wild animals identified in subsection (b) of this section ..."

"(13) Arachnida and Chilopoda: All venomous spiders, including, but not limited to, tarantula, black widow and solifugid; scorpion; all venomous arthropods including, but not limited to, centipede."

Debby

thats why i moved from queens to south florida

 

[super-pede]

I just want to say that the only reason people are trying to put a ban on T's and other inverts is because they are just plain afraid of them.

I was doing a educational presentation at a school one day(I only bring tarantulas with a bee sting level bite-harmless)and once I brought out my avic (which I assured was harmless) 5 kids ran screaming out of the class and two of the parent volunteers grabbed the 8-9 other children (who were really interested) ran out and started screaming about how dangerous the thing was.after the teacher informed me about how the pinktoe can hospitalize a man I left.the public is all misinformed.if we were to actually inform the goverenment of what tarantulas are capable of then they would probably not care.

 

[Angron]

Exactly why is the government and all these special interest groups so intent on banning all of these amazing animals? I understand the ecosystem issue, but it seems that's far too limited to be a legit reason. Honestly, it just looks like they hate any kind of "exotic" animal and want people to be miserable.

 

[Fran]

I just want to say that the only reason people are trying to put a ban on T's and other inverts is because they are just plain afraid of them.

That is absolutely ridiculous.
Lets keep this serious, please.
I think certain species should need a very close eye to those who keep them,sell them or breed them.
Too many stupid kids have what they shouldntat home.
Again, since theres no way you can make sure that if certain animals scapes the owner would be the only harm and responsable, then I dont agree with a free for all-everone keeps whatever.

After the accident you can cry me a river, it is not gonna fix it.

PS: I DONT NECESSARILY AGREE with involving fees and money penalties into the hobby,
BUT this cant be self regulated since there will be always someone greedy enough to sell to the wrong person a dangerous sp for enought money.

 

[GartenSpinnen]

Okay, who can explain to me why so many people say things like, "We don't need any more bad PR for the tarantula hobby", "just another reason for congress to try and ban our hobby", "Our hobby is under enough scrutiny already", or other comments that I see people make similar to these all the time? I've lived in the midwest, New York, and now on the west coast, and have yet to encounter these issues in the real world. I understand the apartment complexes not allowing certain pets, but that also includes dogs at alot of places. This is the only place that I have seen such paranoia. Can anyone explain to me with actual facts why they think this hobby needs that kind of paranoia?

Yea, there is plenty of local and county ordinances that have banned the sale and keeping of ALL 'venomous' arachnids, centipedes, and even millipedes. If you want an example of one of these ridiculous areas, just look up South Bend, Indiana and many other areas it is already enforced in! It IS an issue.

 

[killy]

When the Biggie hits L.A. and hundreds of captive species of Ts get loose by the thousands, it won't be long before they breed by the umpty-ump millions, and Southern California becomes, by an Act of God and Mother Nature, THE TARANTULA CAPITAL OF THE WORLD, where even the priciest T of them all will be available for the easy pickin'! Just let 'em try to stop our hobby THEN mwah- ha-ha-ha- ha ;P;P;P