Tarantulas Banned

[J.huff23]

Yea, there is plenty of local and county ordinances that have banned the sale and keeping of ALL 'venomous' arachnids, centipedes, and even millipedes. If you want an example of one of these ridiculous areas, just look up South Bend, Indiana and many other areas it is already enforced in! It IS an issue.

This scares me. If Ts start getting banned in more and more places, the hobby will eventually die.

 

[CalvinKelly]

I think it's really sad there is legislation popping up banning various species out of bad press. Dogs, bicycles, alcohol, cigarettes, and police officers are just a handful of things that kill more people than reptiles and arachnids combined, and you will never see any of them banned (although I would particularly like to see our good 'ol Blue Buddies banned, but that's another thread).

I know in San Diego we are still quite free to own anything we want (save for ferrets haha). At my local reptile store they even have an Anaconda (currently apx. 5 or 6') for sale. I asked them if it was legal and they said it absolutely was, but that there is the possibility they ban them in the future.

 

[Mack&Cass]

I think it's really sad there is legislation popping up banning various species out of bad press. Dogs, bicycles, alcohol, cigarettes, and police officers are just a handful of things that kill more people than reptiles and arachnids combined, and you will never see any of them banned (although I would particularly like to see our good 'ol Blue Buddies banned, but that's another thread).

I know in San Diego we are still quite free to own anything we want (save for ferrets haha). At my local reptile store they even have an Anaconda (currently apx. 5 or 6') for sale. I asked them if it was legal and they said it absolutely was, but that there is the possibility they ban them in the future.

Actually, pit bulls are banned in the province I live in.

Cass

 

[CalvinKelly]

Good point. However I personally know several people who have been attacked by pits, so I can honestly sympathize with that legislation. But I don't know about you, I don't know anyone, or know anyone who knows anyone who has been killed by a reptile or arachnid. Bad press and fear is really what it boils down to on legislation re: these two Linnaen classes.

 

[Mack&Cass]

Good point. However I personally know several people who have been attacked by pits, so I can honestly sympathize with that legislation. But I don't know about you, I don't know anyone, or know anyone who knows anyone who has been killed by a reptile or arachnid. Bad press and fear is really what it boils down to on legislation re: these two Linnaen classes.

I agree that it is bad press and fear. That one show on Animal Planet that showed people getting killed by their reptiles didn't do much to help either. I don't know anyone who's been attacked by pitbulls, but even if I did, I still think outright banning them is ridiculous.

Cass

 

[ZergFront]

That would have been a funny story, if it wasn't true!

I was reading through this topic and did a Google on "stupid laws" and got the fallowing examples : Let the eye-rolling and laughter commence!

Nevada :

- It’s still “legal” to hang someone for shooting your dog on your property.

- Elko : Everyone walking the streets is required to wear a mask.

- Nyala : A man is forbidden from buying drinks for more than three people other than himself at any one period during the day.

California :

Animals are banned from mating publicly within 1,500 feet of a tavern, school, or place of worship. :wall:

It is a misdemeanor to shoot at any kind of game from a moving vehicle, unless the target is a whale.

Baldwin Park - Nobody is allowed to ride a bicycle in a swimming pool. (seriously?) :?

Only examples from http://www.dumblaws.com/

 

[neubii18]

paranoia strikes deep....into your lives it will creep

thats freaky!lol!

 

[Xian]

I was reading through this topic and did a Google on "stupid laws" and got the fallowing examples : Let the eye-rolling and laughter commence!

Here's one from Ohio.....

It's illegal to get a fish drunk.

 

[CalvinKelly]

I agree that it is bad press and fear. That one show on Animal Planet that showed people getting killed by their reptiles didn't do much to help either. I don't know anyone who's been attacked by pitbulls, but even if I did, I still think outright banning them is ridiculous.

Cass

I totally agree there. I think a ban on anything is absolutely ridiculous and I don't believe the government should have that much power.

 

[Dom]

The problem is that most politicians don't care much about hobbies like this. For most beaurocrats only "freaks/wierdos" keep herps/inverts and they can be easily swayed by special interest groups and bad press. Once the wheels get turning they can be very hard to stop.
Years ago in Toronto (one of Canadas largest cities) there were a few incidents where people were either killed or seriously hurt by their reptiles. Plus others would freak out the neighbourhood by taking their herps for a stroll. This resulted in some bad press and at the end of the day all inverts, venomous reptiles, boids, monitors and crocodilians were outlawed. Inverts were banned even though there were no incidents attributed to them.
The by-law has been ammended and boids less than 3 metres and monitors less than 2 metres etc. can be kept. The only reason for the amendment was because of a lot of hard work by dedicated herpers. Unfortunately they had no interest in fighting for inverts.
Several Canadian cities have since placed bans on herps/inverts.
Before the ban some of us were less than impressed with the behavoirs of blatently irresponsible keepers and warned that legislation was a possible consequence. Were were dismissed as "paranoid".

 

[super-pede]

Cats have the worst impact on the environment.Way worse than snakes or inverts.they can survive cold(30-40 degree)winters,they can breed without killing each other,people are sympathetic for them,and laws protect them.

For some reason I don't see cat's ever being banned or regulated.

PS:A cat's bite is much worse than a T bite.

 

[micheldied]

Cats have the worst impact on the environment.Way worse than snakes or inverts.they can survive cold(30-40 degree)winters,they can breed without killing each other,people are sympathetic for them,and laws protect them.

For some reason I don't see cat's ever being banned or regulated.

PS:A cat's bite is much worse than a T bite.

And dogs come very close.

 

[Venari]

Well, here in Canada I can give you a list of cities in which tarantulas are banned:
Ottawa: (only 3 kinds of T's allowed)
"13 Arachnida and Chilopoda
(a) all venomous spiders including, but not limited to tarantula, black widow and solifugid, scorpion, save and except the exception of the following species of tarantula: Chilean Rose (Grammostola rosea), Mexican Red-Knee (Brachypelma smithi), Pink-Toed (Avicularia avicularia), and
(b) all venomous arthropods including, but not limited to centipede."

Cambridge, Ontario
London, Ontario
Bradford, Ontario
Barrie, Ontario and
Edmonton, Alberta

There are more, but I just thought I'd post a few examples.

Cassandra

If I released my entire collection during the nice warm months of summer...I'm sure the canadian winters would kill them.

 

[micheldied]

I wonder if Ts are allowed in BC?
Since I'll be moving back there in a few years...

 

[Adalrich]

Cats have the worst impact on the environment.Way worse than snakes or inverts.they can survive cold(30-40 degree)winters,they can breed without killing each other,people are sympathetic for them,and laws protect them.

For some reason I don't see cat's ever being banned or regulated.

PS:A cat's bite is much worse than a T bite.

Exactly! The politicians have got it all wrong; it's the mammals they should be worried about. Dogs, cats, mice, rats, rabbits... all of these can survive in both warm & cool environments. And I'm willing to bet that a lot more people are killed by dogs & cats in the States every year than have ever been killed by reptile & invertebrate pets.

I think all this hysteria is fueled by the popular notion that reptiles & invertebrates are disgusting, aggressive, venomous and merciless killers. I was recently at a pet expo here in Helsinki (there were only two stands with reptiles, and only one single tarantula at the entire event!) and I heard several conversations like this: -"Daddy, look, lizards!" -"Keep moving, those are disgusting!" or just simply "Eww, look... it looks like they've got snakes".

Personally, I've always thought that rats, rabbits & mice are repulsive, smelly pests and wouldn't let one near my house. That doesn't mean I'd try banning them, though

I heard that ALL reptiles and amphibians (not sure about tarantulas and scorpions?) are banned in Norway. I don't get it. Why? What are the Norwegians so afraid of? That leopard geckos and bearded dragons will escape and take over the fjords? Oh, the stupidity :wall:

 

[dopamine]

I used to live in a town (Tyler, Texas) that supposedly banned the sale of snakes. And none of the local pet shops sold them, so it might have been true. Whatever.

People are fundamentally retarded. All of us are. Some are just more retarded than others. Some social factors effect retardability. Social factors such as being a local politician or being involved with the religious right. These people will forever see anything they find menacing as something to curtail and eradicate. It is the natural reaction of the retard. You can't talk or reason them out of it. They're just retarded. And retarded can't be cured.

Awesome

 

[BCscorp]

I wonder if Ts are allowed in BC?
Since I'll be moving back there in a few years...

Good to go here in BC. as far as tarantulas are concerned.

 

[micheldied]

Good to go here in BC. as far as tarantulas are concerned.

Good to hear!

 

[Venari]

I doubt a provincial government would ban exotics summarily. Isn't it done at a municipal level?

 

[macj1983]

I can see it happening with some of the ignorance on spiders that's around. It wasn't even a week ago I saw some guy comment on DrSpider's Haplopelma video falsely identifying it as a Sydney funnel web. They're banning pythons and they don't even have any venom. It's just their strength that scares people.

I don't know for what reason they banned venomous spiders, including tarantulas from Sioux City, IA but they are illegal and have been seized before.

what ever goes down they will still be around they may cost more to get. black market will be hot. but your right dont let them get there speed built up or we all will get the short stick. doesnt hurt to tell people whats going on out there I for one like to know. guess its really not that hard to not read the post if you dont like whats being said,