tarantulas as spirit familiars

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mephisto13

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Well returning to the OP's question, I don't personally find that a spiritual connection to tarantulas is all that unusual. Spiders have had mystical and spiritual significance to many cultures throughout human history. The qualities of tarantulas that we consider "otherworldly" are just so different to what we as humans know, that we perceive them as fascinating and bizarre. I think that it is all deep seated in our psychological nature of curiosity and learning. As well as the desire to know our origins. If you sit down and really think about the fact that the tarantula a few feet away from you in a plastic box on a book shelf is almost the same as its several million old ancestors... it's incredible!

As far as what a tarantula must think. While I, as a member of the scientific community, have great objection with assigning animals with or without the ability to think and feel, I do think that certain groups of animals are very limited in what they can think and feel. We have only begun to scratch the surface of brain science and we certainly don't have a good enough understanding to know what most creatures think. That being said, I do think that tarantulas think very little in that they respond to stimuli, but do not comprehend or perceive their surroundings. I could be wrong of coarse.

In my case, I find that sitting down and staring at my tarantulas is quite relaxing. I like to compare keeping exotics in general to gardening. The satisfaction you get from keeping a strange and exotic creature in an enclosed environment and watching it thrive is very strong. And I would certainly say that I grow deeply attached to any pet that I have because I have volunteered to be their guardian and protector until the day they die and I enjoy their presence.

Ultimately, I think that this post is intriguing if nothing else. I think that some people simply see things, particularly the unusual, weird, and strange creatures around us, differently than the rest of the world. That is what makes them so special in my opinion.
Yes..i am the original member to post the thread ..and you hit exactly what i was getting at..i understand i came off as mad..insane...whatever..overly excited..yes i am inspired by hp lovecraft and am of a deeply pagan rooted nature...so yes tarrantulas are so otherworldly and inspire so much thaught...that they are more just insects we collect..i think that was my point i feel deeply rooted to them as they are so otherworldly...awe.. fear..respect..love ..admiration....they are more than just specimans...i think that was my point...but eitherway this thread was cool and i thank every one for joining in...

Personally, I believe spiders are the sacred conduits and vessels of the spirits of destruction and chaos, while the moths are the vessels of creation and order, and the bees are the vessels of those who preserve and harmonize both destruction and creation. The essence within is the same essence within all living beings, however, the three totems are the most sacred forms of life within our world vessel. Anything that which is physical, is a vessel to that which is meta-physical. Vessels which contain neurons and blood are those which contain the essence of divinity. Divinity is not good, nor evil. divinity merely creates, or destroys. That which divinity creates, preserves either creation or destruction. This is the universal law.
Well said and requires much thaught...i like the concept of bees being vessals that harmonize both creative and destructive principles...and yes the spider is a representation of chaos...8 legs representing the star of chaos itself...my sentiment exactly...right on...
 
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Life existed long before there were planets to contain it. Do not be so foolhardy to disclaim that which you have little to no understanding of. We are all otherworldly technically, since we are made of dead stars and various elements scattered throughout the known universe.
 

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since we are made of dead stars and various elements scattered throughout the known universe.
The "star dust" we are made of are heavier inorganic molecules, like iron. Just about all the organic carbon based molecules in any living creature were formed fairly recently. Yes amino acids have been found on meteors but it's also been found that amino acids can form by themselves. Amino acids arent life though.
 

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Yes..i am the original member to post the thread ..and you hit exactly what i was getting at..i understand i came off as mad..insane...whatever..overly excited..yes i am inspired by hp lovecraft and am of a deeply pagan rooted nature...so yes tarrantulas are so otherworldly and inspire so much thaught...that they are more just insects we collect..i think that was my point i feel deeply rooted to them as they are so otherworldly...awe.. fear..respect..love ..admiration....they are more than just specimans...i think that was my point...but eitherway this thread was cool and i thank every one for joining in...


Well said and requires much thaught...i like the concept of bees being vessals that harmonize both creative and destructive principles...and yes the spider is a representation of chaos...8 legs representing the star of chaos itself...my sentiment exactly...right on...
Tarantulas are not, in any way, insects. This is basic taxonomy.

I love the Cthulhu Mythos, too (super excited about the new Call of Cthulhu!) and the Ruinous Powers were my first love in 40K. That said, these are works of fiction. They have no bearing on real life. Fantasy is wonderful, but try to avoid conflating fascinating fiction with reality.
 
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"Do what thou wilt, be the whole of the law". I believe Aleister Crowley said that a few times, though, it is unlikely he coined the phrase. In any case, if the beliefs of others do not aggressively oppose your own, let them be, for they are on their own spiritual path, as is everyone else, whether they realize it or not. Every religion has ten things right, the rest is hogwash built from delusion and intellectual weakness.
 

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"Do what thou wilt, be the whole of the law". I believe Aleister Crowley said that a few times, though, it is unlikely he coined the phrase. In any case, if the beliefs of others do not aggressively oppose your own, let them be, for they are on their own spiritual path, as is everyone else, whether they realize it or not. Every religion has ten things right, the rest is hogwash built from delusion and intellectual weakness.
Dono why that guy was considered wicked sure made a lot of sense . Maybe his occult stuff . Definitely following a religion without understanding it is very bad. They are often based on ancient , very ancient stuff. Religion is often used as a medical of control not understanding of god.
I find eastern Christianity interesting but so are many others . Just it has some spirituality involved it’s not like have faith and your saved .
Or rediculous singing and dancing on a stage which more or less mocks god, Protestants often do this. Protestant means protester , like 50k differenct sects or more.

Theoretically you could debunk almost every religion as something they did back during annunnanki times or Babylon , even Rome and Greece are foundations of western societies today. And spirituality is way different then mindless following of something, without understanding.

Have you seen avatar? Imagine having a link to animals like that !!! Wow amazing
Shame no movies like this or a sequel been made .

I see the big three centipedes , tarantula, scorpion as top in invert world .
 

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I don't see how it's possible to continue this thread without it becoming a debate about spirituality versus rationality, which would be outside of the scope of this forum. As such, I'm bowing out of this discussion.
 

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Tarantulas are more than insects...they are familiars.....a link to aetheric and infenal..chaotic and devine...point made...all hail the malcentropus baulfori...my new familiar....they are awesome...
 

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Tarantulas are more than insects...they are familiars.....a link to aetheric and infenal..chaotic and devine...point made...all hail the malcentropus baulfori...my new familiar....they are awesome...
Well okay, you have fun with that.
 

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I say this with the greatest respect and humility that I can muster but this thread is completely abstract and nonsensical
 

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Yes..i am the original member to post the thread ..and you hit exactly what i was getting at..i understand i came off as mad..insane...whatever..overly excited..yes i am inspired by hp lovecraft and am of a deeply pagan rooted nature...so yes tarrantulas are so otherworldly and inspire so much thaught...that they are more just insects we collect..i think that was my point i feel deeply rooted to them as they are so otherworldly...awe.. fear..respect..love ..admiration....they are more than just specimans...i think that was my point...but eitherway this thread was cool and i thank every one for joining in...


Well said and requires much thaught...i like the concept of bees being vessals that harmonize both creative and destructive principles...and yes the spider is a representation of chaos...8 legs representing the star of chaos itself...my sentiment exactly...right on...
There’s not one religion except maybe wackos like Mormons who are founded by a free mason . All are based on older pagan religions, and polytheism wich is a older form of the gods , or Elohim.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elohim
Most religions warship some part of nature the sun , moon etc .. shame our planet is being annhialates for false gods like paper money. And profit rainforest is in danger!!!
 
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Yes I AGREE WITH THIS
...they are arachnids.

The vessel is always physical. In life, the essence within physical vessel is limited to the physiology of the animal in question. We as humans, have extraordinary capability, which shows in our ability to learn and use the learned material practically. We are not stationary trees who sit about all day oblivious to the world around us, and this is due to our own physiology. We cannot understand fully the physiology and psychology of spiders as we are within a whole different microverse than invertebrates. So, to blindly shun away new viewpoints lays within the realms of the ignorant sheep who follow their "shepherds" of various organizations and cults.
 

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I don't see how it's possible to continue this thread without it becoming a debate about spirituality versus rationality, which would be outside of the scope of this forum.
exactly...you can make a thread in the watering hole for discussions on philosophy and religious beliefs...this is not the place.
 
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