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Stunning shots Jan!
I love this species!
I do, too. Sometimes though just wished she'd calm down some. Pretty low threshold this oneStunning shots Jan!I love this species!
Quite frankly, I've suspected the same already time ago. However, the one you pictured as A. azuraklaasi, is looking very much like A. geroldi, to me? The breeder I got this girl from swears it's an A. azuraklaasi but I'll look into the matter some - before I'm going to breed her!Nice updates Jan! Your Avicularia azuraklassi is nothing like what we have over here. It looks more like Avicularia braunshauseni to me! Beautiful spider none the less!![]()
That's not entirely true - both azuraklaasi and braunshauseni are counting towards the larger Avics, mate. Even azuraklaasi can easily reach 6". I've measured this girl now eventually and she's currently ~5.5" spread out, so not fully grown yet. My hand itches pretty bad though after handling her for measuring. However, she wasn't defensive the least really, just a little skittish. Either way, I'll update on the matter once I can confirm one or the other, will talk and show some people here, too.I'd say A. braunshauseni too with the red setae on leg pair IIII, she'll also get quite big, whereas A. azuraklaasi are one of the medium to smaller Avicularia spp.
Like I said, it's only their legs that got messed up. The H. villosella seems to cope with it, although the feet of her leg pairs I+II are totally bent upward (poor girlI'm reading this and i'm holding my fingers crossed none of my T's ever experience bad moults. I had over 30 mous so far and every sigle went well. I really hope your T's end up fine. Your Nyx is gorgeous, now i want grammyoh:
Thanks, buddy! Appreciated!Nice pics Jan! Love that diversipes.
Thanks, Michael! They're one mean species for sureHey Jan, great pics of Hera and Ares, beautiful spiders!!![]()
In regards to your Avicularia sp. spermathecae photo above, here are a couple of the sources I used to attempt in comparing what you have there among the Azuraklaasi and Baunshauseni:Here's the spermathecae pic of my "Avicularia azuraklaasi" / "Avicularia braunshauseni" - I can't really tell from the looks if it's either...they look pretty similiar...
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The last reference you listed there, is A. sp. "Peru Purple" - at least it looks exactly like it IMO. So I take that out of the choices. I'm aware, that A. azuraklaasi -as with most Avics- are kinda difficult to successfully ID, but considering that I got my girl from a respected breeder over here (H. Manstein) - I give him the benefit of the doubt. I do know, however, that he got this one as a sling (without the adult coloration she shows now) from a friend of his, so since I don't know from whom, that's the point where it starts me wondering. Either way, I'll see if I can take some pictures from different angles once she is in a spot where I can get her out easily. Don't want to destroy her webbing for that. I'm pretty sure, it's not A. velutina btw - those are one of the smaller sized ones with 4" - this girl is currently 5.5" (measured DLS). Her neat coloration is what throws me off...the red satae, the brown on the leg-pairs III+IV....oh well...gotta do more research on this subject. Guess before Fukushima finished her revision of Avics we'll just be left with doubting...In regards to your Avicularia sp. spermathecae photo above, here are a couple of the sources I used to attempt in comparing what you have there among the Azuraklaasi and Baunshauseni:
- http://terra-li-ma-en.de.tl/Spermathecaes.htm (just check the Avicularia section for reference)
- http://www.tarantulas.co.za/forum/sex-this-tarantula/337-species-spermathecae-gallery (check on the first group for Azuraklaasi and the others throughout the posts for comparison)
- http://www.exoticfauna.com/arachnids_reptiles/photo_pages/A_azuraklaasi_SP.html (Makes the Braunshauseni seem more plausible, but you decide since you have the molt to view)
From what I've noticed through your videos with coloration and the quality that allows me to see what I can, I'm almost more inclined to lean toward the Azuraklaasi label even with that illustration as a reference. It almost strikes an uncanny resemblance to the spermathecae of an A. Velutina, but I'd have to go back and view the anterior legs and subtle coloration of your specimen again. I just posted that to hopefully aid in allow you to form a better decision. If you could get any other photos from a bit different orientation, I might be able to tell more effectively.
Otherwise, wonderful photos thus far. Always a pleasure to view your video updates on the channel every so often.
I got lucky being able to take that shotLove that shot of your genic!! hehe
Thank you, M'am! Glad you like my picture thread!Very, very lovely pictures. Enjoying this thread a lot.![]()
These things don't fear anything really - not freshly molted, nor hardened up. In the latter situation they even chase you a little out of their enclosure...certainly my most defensive species. I have to admit though, if dealt with with a good amount of respect - no biggie!Great pics, Jan! I love the crankypants C. fimbriatus - threat posing and her fangs haven't even begun to harden. LOL
I very much appreciate your hints and tips and general thought of trying to help, Balvala. Honestly, it seems to me that the A. azuraklaasi in the US is different that the one in Europe. Probably because no one can really 100% tell what a real one looks like. Rick Wests pages shows an A. purpurea IMO even for that species? Anyways, I took some pics of some of the Avics today and while I wasn't able to coax my big female "azurklaasi/braunshauseni" out of her webbing, I thought I'd post at least the other pics I took. I'll update on that "special" T whenever I can convince her to show up ;-). As for your mentioning of A. avicularia - as far as I'm aware the correct ones hardly ever grow bigger than 4-4.5" overall. Any bigger ones are most likely different species of the genus - at least that was my impression after researching quite some.The only reason that I posted the last photo was due to its corresponding nature to the illustration reference, and I can get behind Michael Jacobi with some things since he's been a part of the Exotic Fauna site for some time. I think it makes it difficult not knowing what stage of development some of those photos are in so I can compare exactly with your own. I knew you didn't have an A. Velutina either due to the size issue and me having witnessed your girl in a few videos. I was merely remarking on how incredibly similar some of the species within this genus tend to be when even examining sexual organs, as it can sometimes be with Haplopelma as well.
I've spent the past few months attempting to study the various subtleties within all genera among the Aviculariinae sub-family, and I've only surveyed the surface with the articles, images and videos I've been able to analyze. If only I had access to more personal documents, I might be able to quell some suspicions held toward certain the species I'm dying to compare. I, too, have an Avicularia sp. that I assume to be merely an Avic. Avic. female at about ≈5.5"-6" that has all of the right coloration (brownish setae on the legs, teal carapace and more blue among the femur) but lacks the more necessary redness in the setae above the pedicel. She won't really eat at all or web since I rehoused her a couple of weeks ago, so the chances of a molt anytime soon are quite slim. I suppose you're correct by suggesting the fact that we might not know the exact, subtle details to account for within the Avicularia genus until such research is finalized.
I look forward to a few more photos that you might be able to capture of her in the future however. Good luck with everything.