darkhelmet
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i would also rather get bit by a widow than most venomous snakes anyway...
but are you aware that a black widow's venom is 7 times deadlier than a pit viper's?Not to mention that pit vipers have hemotoxic venom..
some comments on your thoughts. not trying to be a jerk, just throwing the info out there:This is simple: a black widow is far easier and safer to keep than any venomous snake. Why? Think about it: which is easier to get tagged by, a 1-inch lump that hangs upside down in a web, or a lithe, 3 foot viper that can strike from half its body length away? The snake can get to you much more easily than a spider, i.e., the snake has the ability to "reach out and touch" someone, whereas the person must, essentially, reach out and touch the spider to be bitten.
Add speed, size, ability to escape versus ability to contain, and lifestyle: a snake is a hunting predator, mobile. A spider sits and waits. The snake obviously has more of a tendency to "want" to get out of its box. There are members on here who have kept Latros free in their homes: setting up a web in a corner, and leaving it there. The spider stays put once its web is assembled, providing the site is successful, and nothing disturbs/ wrecks the web.
In short, widows are smaller, slower, and lazier than any snake.
The venom may be deadlier, but don't you think the issue with their bites is more about quantity than quality?but are you aware that a black widow's venom is 7 times deadlier than a pit viper's?
I really didnt know that. But still like Motzo said and I said earlier, a widow can and most likely will give a dry bite while the snake would unload its venom glands into you on the first bite if it felt threatened enough to strike at you. 1 small drop of venom, or a small tablespoon of still very toxic venom.but are you aware that a black widow's venom is 7 times deadlier than a pit viper's?
Snakes dry bite more than not, but in a captive environment ,true you will probably get invenomated.I really didnt know that. But still like Motzo said and I said earlier, a widow can and most likely will give a dry bite while the snake would unload its venom glands into you on the first bite if it felt threatened enough to strike at you. 1 small drop of venom, or a small tablespoon of still very toxic venom.
of course that would make sense, wouldn't it? :} . i suppose that's why not so many people die from coral snake bites since they're so tiny.The venom may be deadlier, but don't you think the issue with their bites is more about quantity than quality?
Snakes and black widows both kill people, but black widows don't have as high as a death-per-bite rate as most pit vipers do.
But that's interesting information about the venom. I didn't know that.. Thanks!
i sure as heck would not!!!id rather have a rattler bite me than a black widow
there is, but ya don't need iti'm pretty sure there is spider antivenom as well
much easier. you have to work to kill the things...I would say that keeping a black widow would be easier.
me too, as stated above...i would also rather get bit by a widow than most venomous snakes anyway...
and 15 times deadlier than a rattlesnakes. we've heard it before, but then again we all know that rattlesnakes inject a much higher quantity than widows.but are you aware that a black widow's venom is 7 times deadlier than a pit viper's?
Where did you get that statistic?but are you aware that a black widow's venom is 7 times deadlier than a pit viper's?
wikipedia?Where did you get that statistic?
Ah ok. I guess people just rounded the statistics to 15 times more. I tried to procure it from my stored memory in my brainWell, according to this LD50 value chart, cross referenced to this chart, the venom is less potent than some vipers, and more potent(up to ~13x) than others...
Eh, whatever... I dont think the potency is really an issue. IMO, barring allergic reactions, a venomous snake will almost always be worse to take a hit from than a latro (not to mention easier to get tagged by).
I used to find them there in Tex along any bayou when I lived in Alief and Missouri city area ,but that was long ago.I'm pretty sure you aren't going to find a Widow in anyplace too conspicuous.
Well, not in southeastern Texas anyway... Darn blue mud daubers got to 'em.