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Vanan

Arachnobaron
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"Female garter snakes exhibit a strong positive association between increased body size and increased clutch or litter size. Therefore, males tend to choose the largest, sexually mature female to mate with (Seigel and Collins, 1993). For this reason, while being courted, females increase their apparent size by hyperventilating (Garstka and Crews, 1981)."

"You may perhaps see a very slight movement of the eyes, or an ever so imperceptible increase in the breathing rate." -Lenny Flank, in ref. to venomous snakes using the ambush strategy.

http://compphys.bio.uci.edu/hicks/4.pdf
Prioritization of oxygen delivery during elevated metabolic states by James W. Hicks, Albert F. Bennett. In interesting read.

Just a few I found in a quick google search. It's one of those known things that increased breathing rate, results in an increase in blood pressure and heart rate which usually happens when a snake gets excited, for whatever reason. Not just a threat display. To make things clear, by huffing and puffing I mean, "inflating/deflating without audible hissing. If you were referring to the hissing, then yes, it's a known threat display. Or if you were referring to the just the size increase by inhaling and and extending their muscles to look big, then yes, increasing of size is used as a defense mechanism. Examples of that are the B. arietans (and most crotalids) and H. nasicus.

Try taking a closer look next time you feed your snakes and see if it starts hyperventilating, 9 times out of 10 you will see it, unless your snake's too lazy to expand any effort in capturing it's prey. :p :D
 

metallica

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Crotalus said:
Are they adults? I could hear my barbouri but it was more a buzz then a classic rattling.
Same with juvenile rattlers, they just go for it but all is coming out are a buzz :)

/Lelle
only juves Lelle, but Dang i love them!

Eddy
 

Crotalus

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Vanan said:
"Female garter snakes exhibit a strong positive association between increased body size and increased clutch or litter size. Therefore, males tend to choose the largest, sexually mature female to mate with (Seigel and Collins, 1993). For this reason, while being courted, females increase their apparent size by hyperventilating (Garstka and Crews, 1981)."

"You may perhaps see a very slight movement of the eyes, or an ever so imperceptible increase in the breathing rate." -Lenny Flank, in ref. to venomous snakes using the ambush strategy.

http://compphys.bio.uci.edu/hicks/4.pdf
Prioritization of oxygen delivery during elevated metabolic states by James W. Hicks, Albert F. Bennett. In interesting read.

Just a few I found in a quick google search. It's one of those known things that increased breathing rate, results in an increase in blood pressure and heart rate which usually happens when a snake gets excited, for whatever reason. Not just a threat display. To make things clear, by huffing and puffing I mean, "inflating/deflating without audible hissing. If you were referring to the hissing, then yes, it's a known threat display. Or if you were referring to the just the size increase by inhaling and and extending their muscles to look big, then yes, increasing of size is used as a defense mechanism. Examples of that are the B. arietans (and most crotalids) and H. nasicus.

Try taking a closer look next time you feed your snakes and see if it starts hyperventilating, 9 times out of 10 you will see it, unless your snake's too lazy to expand any effort in capturing it's prey. :p :D
Garters ok, I can accept that but the next statement are taken out of context. He mean thats a prey strike of a gabon? Eye movements on gaboons are seen when they feel stressed out, as the audible inflate/deflate of air. A food strike looks a bit different, definitly no audible inflate/deflate of the body.

When a rattlesnake strikes a food item it often are in a s-shape typical for viperids. This might be seen as a inflation of the body, they load up before the strike. But no inflation/deflation as gaboons do when you are too close to their terrarium.

I think you should read what im writing one more time. Looks like you dont understand what Im saying in my previous posts. Im talking about a audible inflate/deflate, and that is nothing else then a defense behaviour. Just like his retic was displaying in the original post.

/Lelle
 

avicularia_reig

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"not unless you live in the rainforest or wherever they come from.take it to a pet store right now!"

okay i meant to post this right under where he asked if he could simply let it go :wall:
 
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