she did not come out for 2 months ...so i dug her and i discovered a big girl!

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they said that having a cb is hard and they will try to bite you no matter what....but they are wrong(n my opinion). once you left them alone and alert them when you are there like knocking the enclosure so she would know that your are there....she would not try to bite me.... :D
 

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She is beautiful, but why did you dig up an obligate burrower?

Edit (just to save time and posts): I wouldn't advise you to do this in the future, as having her burrow destroyed and her territory encroached upon causes your T stress and evident fang-baring.

She probably doesn't appreciate the vibrations caused by your knocking on the glass, either. If you're implying that she "recognizes" you, well... try to see how friendly she is the next time you obliterate her home.

It sounds like you should be taking more care around your pet, considering the species, for your sake and hers.
 
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she is very pretty, but they are called "pet holes" for a reason. You may never see her/him but you know they are there.
 

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Very pretty girl and very good pictures!! But yeah, umm.....she doesn't look too happy.
 

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not very happy at all. ya, H. lividums are obligated burrowers, its entirely normal to not see them for several months on end. I would advise you not go digging around for yours again unless its ABSOLUTELY nessicary. All your doing is stressing her out.

As a side note, she is very beautiful.
 

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I have several Ts that are known pet holes and I undertand that you need to make sure they are still there. Sometimes if im worried ill link three drinking straws together so they can still have air pass through but ive got a much longer straw now. then ill put one end in the back of the burrow (sometimes you have to prob through dirt) and then blow softly into the burrower. normally my Ts will come out.
 

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they said that having a cb is hard and they will try to bite you no matter what....but they are wrong(n my opinion). once you left them alone and alert them when you are there like knocking the enclosure so she would know that your are there....she would not try to bite me.... :D
Right...knock on the enclosure. Good idea. :wall:
 

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Holy flawed theories, Batman!

If you really think knocking on the enclosure is going to cause her to not bite you, because she "knows you're there" - you have A LOT of research to get goin' on!
Tarantulas don't "think" that way... they are instinctual. Knocking the glass, is going to alert her that something big is out there and she needs to be extra defensive to protect herself.

Digging her up was just pointless. They live in burrows underground... NOT coming out, is a good thing. Maybe you should have done some research on the species, and gotten a different one... if you want a tarantula you see all the time.
 

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she is very pretty, but they are called "pet holes" for a reason. You may never see her/him but you know they are there.
I had one that i traded not too long ago... while she was in my possesion.... i never see her out..... only when feeding maybe you'll get lucky... she might come out... that happened once in a while for me every few months... Nice T by the way....
 

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pretty burmese cobalt blue!

She looks really pissed-off! I would be, too... and btw - that IS aggression!!!

Next time if you just want to see her, don't go and destroy her world! Just get up in the middle of the night and she'll probably be out hunting or out for a bit of fresh air - check her out then ~ that's what I have done with all three of mine :clap:
 

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Great thread on what NOT to do... complete with illustrations.
 

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I agree with everyone else. Nice looking spider and I can understand why you want to see her...but don't dig her up just for some entertainment. They're not social. How would you like someone to tear down your house? My H. stays in it's burrow 24/7 for months also. They are happiest down there. Also...tapping won't let it know who's there. It's not bonded to you. Stick your hand next to it. It will bite. :eek:
Nice pictures anyway.
 

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my point is knocking ont the enclosure so she would know something is there and hiding somewhere
 

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my point is knocking ont the enclosure so she would know something is there and hiding somewhere
Uh, what?

they said that having a cb is hard and they will try to bite you no matter what....but they are wrong(n my opinion). once you left them alone and alert them when you are there like knocking the enclosure so she would know that your are there....she would not try to bite me.... :D
Listen, all that stuff does is irritate her.

She looks really pissed-off! I would be, too... and btw - that IS aggression!!!
Oh, you again.

No, that's not aggression. If someone broke down your door, destroyed your home, and poked and prodded at you...resisting them would be an act of aggression or defense?

That is a perfect example of a tarantula being defensive about its home/territory. If the spider came out of the burrow, climbed out of the cage, and chased you around the house, then it would be aggressive.

Do your homework, young lady.

Also, spare me the definitions and extracts and all your other 'evidence'. Instead, run a search on all the threads that have already addressed aggressive vs. defensive and spare us your misinformation.
 
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This thread summarized:

-The difference between aggression and defensiveness

If the tarantula broke out of its enclosure and rampaged through your house hunting you, your spouse, your children, and all of your other pets down so it could bite them...

...THAT is an aggressive tarantula!

If, on the other hand, you knock on your tarantulas enclosure, lift the lid, dig them out of a hole, and do not allow them to hide or escape (which is why they were in the hole in the first place), and they throw up a threat posture and bare their fangs...

...THAT is a defensive tarantula!


Things you should NOT do:

1. Dig your tarantula out.

If it's dead, it will stink. If it's alive, it won't. If you want to see the tarantula, you should have taken pictures before it dug itself in... Or you should come out and try to catch a glimpse of him/her in the middle of the night while he/she is feeding.

2. Knock on your tarantulas enclosure.

They do not have ears. They sense vibration. Notice tarantulas do not install 'knockers' or doorbells on their burrows in the wild. Large vibrations warn them of predators. Small vibrations inform them food is near. Imagine how you would feel if every time someone wanted to get your attention they would come to your house in the middle of the night while you were sleeping and start firing a shotgun outside your bedroom window screaming "COME OUT, COME OUT, WHEREEVER YOU ARE!". I doubt you would be amused. You might even lose control of your bowels.

Sure, they didn't actually fire the shotgun AT you and they didn't actually HURT you.. But, hey, you didn't know that at the time! You were just asleep, minding your own business! Probably a stressful experience, yeah?
 

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Haha, I could tell just by the title that this thread was going to include somebody getting mad at somebody else.
 

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Everyone here is correct. Remember, a happy spider is an unseen spider. Let her do what comes natural. Lastly, if you want to see her, you might try installing a 15-25 watt red light for night viewing. NOT..a heat lamp as you might cook your pet. make sure it has a few inches above the top. Try putting it on a simple timer so it isn't on all night or whatever suits your viewing habits.

I might suggest an easy way here to reinstate her burrow if it has been dug up.

1. Get yourself a paper towel tube.

2. Dig out one corner of her enclosure but leave about an inch of substrate at the bottom.

3. Place the tube upright and while holding it that way, back fill in and around the tube. Compact the substrate but don't go overboard. Just firm until you have the corner filled up again level with the surface.

4. If you've done this right you should now be able to gently twist and pull up [very easy] on the tube and pull it out leaving a perfectly started burrow for her that is just the right size.

She will find this and make it her own. Works every time. Just let her do the rest. If you add a tiny bit of moss and perhaps some leaves this fall, you will find that she puts those to good use to re-enforce her burrow entrance which should resemble a cone to some degree. Be advised, at times they will make another entrance to their burrows and can surprise you if you aren't aware of that. I found that out the scary way.

When i saw them in the wild in Vietnam, they used just about anything to build up and re-enforce their burrow entrances. I always felt this might be to prevent water from entering during the monsoon seasons there.

Good luck. Nice looking but angry girl.
 
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