Pillow inside web? jumping spider

[Veno Manus]

Any new excitement yet!?

 

[spideyygirl]

sorry

@spideyygirl Something overlooked in this thread, pun intended. Webs are reserve food sources for some spiders. Pure protein that can be eaten and easily metabolized back into the chemicals the spider uses for nutrients. A very common version of this is some orb weavers make their orbs in the evening and eat the sticky lines come dawn, only leaving the frame work.

I met an undergrad student in entomology long ago who was planning on writing his thesis on webs and their uses. Spiders are only a small part of the animals that make webs and the applications vary from food catching to altering the local environment for specific purposes, from mating, protection, on out to infrastructure, weather stations predicting variations in temperature and humidity and so on.
I searched but the student vanished along with his planned treatise and book to be written. This could be a thread, an ongoing topic, for us here on AB, the various uses of webbing, how the animals produce the webs and what circumstances.
One example is some mites such as 'dust mites' require a web mass for species survival, locally altering the climate and environment. A requisite part of a species of the red spider mite life cycle is the communal webbing they produce, and on and on.

sorry bare with me here (neurodivergent) so that was a bit confusing.
does that mean she couldn’t be laying eggs and doing something else? like because the weather could have changed or she’s lacking nutrients etc? am i understanding that correctly a little?
i’ve checked this morning & this new little eggs with a speck of black are on them. she’s still in that web when i created this post maybe 5 weeks now? but she’s communicating with me through the web but it’s been ages?

 

[spideyygirl]

Any new excitement yet!?

nooo only this morning i found these tiny little eggs in the web with like black in them? i tried to take a photo

 

[The Snark]

does that mean she couldn’t be laying eggs and doing something else?

She certainly could. One genetic instruction does not necessarily over-ride another.

 

[spideyygirl]

She certainly could. One genetic instruction does not necessarily over-ride another.

dang, no shit! .. so should i like intervene & try & get her out of the web? i popped some water in the other day along with a cricket, she popped her head out to say hello but that’s all. i haven’t seen those new egg type things since this morning.. any idea to what you think that may be?
ps i want your knowledgeable mind!

 

[Veno Manus]

This is my female with her eggs. If it looks like this then you're on track for some baaaaabbiiess!!

 

[Charliemum]

nooo only this morning i found these tiny little eggs in the web with like black in them? i tried to take a photo

They look like baby's not eggs look at the shape around the yellow
I hope u don't mind but I borrowed your pic to do the outlines and I may not be right I have never had jumper babys only the dud sac but they look like little abdomen n carapace to me. That may be why you can't always find them because they are moving in the web. @The Snark is probably write though his true spood knowledge has saved me on more then one occasion

 

[The Snark]

Over to you, Charles: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_selection
While he doesn't directly address the immediate issue, what he wrote, essentially created an entire branch of science, gives a backgrounder upon variations in the reproduction of all species. Plenty of hints of anomalous behavior all being a part of the natural genetic refining process.

What makes Darwin's contributions so valuable is his extensive replicative research and documentation. In the process of his studies he also established the framework of proper modern investigative scientific methodology. IE, no half baked theories allowed. The politicians of today, with very few exceptions, could and should be required to be well versed in the framework Darwin established and maintained. Religious based claptrap gets thrown out the window first, closely followed by ideologies.

 

[Charliemum]

Religious based claptrap gets thrown out the window first, closely followed by ideologies.

I am with you there my friend

 

[spideyygirl]

They look like baby's not eggs look at the shape around the yellow View attachment 459400
I hope u don't mind but I borrowed your pic to do the outlines and I may not be right I have never had jumper babys only the dud sac but they look like little abdomen n carapace to me. That may be why you can't always find them because they are moving in the web. @The Snark is probably write though his true spood knowledge has saved me on more then one occasion

no way! does this mean there already hatched or there the eggs for it??

you guys are so amazingly smart i love it

 

[spideyygirl]

This is my female with her eggs. If it looks like this then you're on track for some baaaaabbiiess!! View attachment 459399

OMG cuteness overload i wish i could get them in australia

okay i can’t see inside her web like that at all she’s concaved herself in theirs a little slip in the web she can stick her head out

 

[spideyygirl]

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They look like baby's not eggs look at the shape around the yellow View attachment 459400
I hope u don't mind but I borrowed your pic to do the outlines and I may not be right I have never had jumper babys only the dud sac but they look like little abdomen n carapace to me. That may be why you can't always find them because they are moving in the web. @The Snark is probably write though his true spood knowledge has saved me on more then one occasion

and your right they are moving there not there anymore!! what the dang are they haha

 

[spideyygirl]

she’s poking her head out, should i try another cricket? she looks so small now

 

[Charliemum]

and

and your right they are moving there not there anymore!! what the dang are they haha

They look like baby's to me just off the shape , she may be protecting them you can leave them with mum they may not have had that ewl to sling moult yet n she may be getting the nursery ready
I haven't had babys from your jumper sp but i have had our native zebra jumping spider babys before and mum made a nursery when they were ready to hatch and the babys stayed in the web for a few weeks and where white and so tiny not even a mm dls, then they moulted and came out as little spiders. Your sp may be similar in baby care.

she’s poking her head out, should i try another cricket? she looks so small now

Maybe pre kill it and try offering it in the tongs if she doesn't take it try again in a few days. She will look tiny after all that egg sitting, it may take a while to get her bk up to size slow n steady though, you don't want to over feed her , like with any creature that hasn't eaten for a while you have to build up again, little on often as they say

 

[Veno Manus]

Get good lighting and snaps some real up close pictures. Just mess with the focus on the the phone camera untill you can get a good photo. Having the far away pictures are tough to decide and we are all trying to say the same thing. So untill we get some concrete evidence we should all just patiently wait untill there's some good proof.

 

[Charliemum]

Get good lighting and snaps some real up close pictures. Just mess with the focus on the the phone camera untill you can get a good photo. Having the far away pictures are tough to decide and we are all trying to say the same thing. So untill we get some concrete evidence we should all just patiently wait untill there's some good proof.

I didn't think to say get better pics you can tell my head is in today .
I fully agree try and get some light behind and take pics you should at least be able to see silhouettes then and hopefullyknow for sure .

 

[spideyygirl]

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Get good lighting and snaps some real up close pictures. Just mess with the focus on the the phone camera untill you can get a good photo. Having the far away pictures are tough to decide and we are all trying to say the same thing. So untill we get some concrete evidence we should all just patiently wait untill there's some good proof.

okay i tried doing that for a while for an iphone14 you’d think you would have a better camera.
when i get home i will try & get some photos it’s hard because i cant see into the web either i can see one big yellow type ball then those once. i get home ill do it. but this is probably a stupid question i still cant find the answer is carapace a baby spider or something else just the shell of them?

 

[spideyygirl]

okay i

I didn't think to say get better pics you can tell my head is in today .
I fully agree try and get some light behind and take pics you should at least be able to see silhouettes then and hopefullyknow for sure .

okay il have to google what silhouettes look like it’s impossible to see them there webbed in good

 

[SpookySpooder]

but this is probably a stupid question i still cant find the answer is carapace a baby spider or something else just the shell of them?

We all start from 0. Glad to see your excitement hasn't died down even a little.

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[spideyygirl]

We all start from 0. Glad to see your excitement hasn't died down even a little.

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that’s very true! i just want her out i miss her haha!
definitely not, there my bestfriends