Genus Phormictopus

[spyderlady]

Is this Phormictopus Cancerides?

This spider was sold to me back in 2005 as phormictopus cancerides. Somebody else on this thread said this doesn't look like a cancerides. So could someone tell me whether I have a p. cancerides or another species?

 

[Scorpendra]

it might jut be premolt, but it seems as if my cancerides' pink-ish highlights are starting to fade.

 

[Anastasia]

Oh boy here I go

 

[Scorpendra]

whoops, broke the link to my last image:

-Rob

 

[SNAFU]

Little 4" female P. Cancerides right after I unpacked her. Sold as a cancerides anyway! Hopefully after a couple of molts, she'll get a little more "bling" and lose that plain brown overcoat.

 

[pato_chacoana]

Phormictopus cancerides

pato-

 

[Martin H.]

Phormictopus cochleasvorax

 

[fartkowski]

P. cancerides

 

[fartkowski]

P. cancerides

 

[Sooner]

This is a very underrated genus. This is Alucard, my P. cancerides. I haven't been able to get intact molts from this tarantula so I don't know if it's a she or a he. I'm also terrible at sexing from underneath.

 

[strongboy4]

P. cancerides

These are my P. cancerides mating. Look at their wonderful colour and just enjoy....

 

[RottweilExpress]

To bad Bagaturov never returned with anything useful to say.

Fartkowski, your T does not look like Cancerides. It just doesn't.

 

[fartkowski]

It defenetly has the attitude of P cancerides

 

[Cyprine]

These pictures are absolutely beautiful.

 

[moose35]

It defenetly has the attitude of P cancerides

hey chris when i see those pics of that spider i can't help but to think Phormictopus platus.
i'm probally wrong.
but its just what i see.

its beautiful by the way



moose

 

[GoTerps]

To bad Bagaturov never returned with anything useful to say.

Fartkowski, your T does not look like Cancerides. It just doesn't.

The spiders strongboy4 just posted pictures of are the in the same boat... not P. cancerides for me... but one of the spiders frequently sold incorrectly as such (often WC) for many, many years... the "purple" one. This spider is also sold incorrectly as P. atrichomatus sometimes.

Based on the Rudloff's revision, the "purple" spider may be undescribed. It's pictured many times in this thread.

It's not terribly surprising that THIS SPIDER gets collected and exported along with WC P. cancerides. I've seen these 2 spiders showing up as WC's and sold as the same thing ever since I've been in the hobby.

Eric

 

[GoTerps]

hey chris when i see those pics of that spider i can't help but to think Phormictopus platus.
i'm probally wrong.

P. platus is another name that has no buisness being used in the hobby IMO.

As of right now, no living material of P. platus has ever been examined. The holotype and paratype are both subadult males. The female of whatever these specimens are is unknown. Even the original collection locale of the male types is questionable.

Rudloff (in the revision of this genus) does mention that this species is probably very close to P. auratus, based on the immature males in alcohol only.

The spider I see most commonly sold here in the U.S. as "P. platus" are almost always P. auratus.

Eric

 

[moose35]

P. platus is another name that has no buisness being used in the hobby IMO.

As of right now, no living material of P. platus has ever been examined. The holotype and paratype are both subadult males. The female of whatever these specimens are is unknown. Even the original collection locale of the male types is questionable.

Rudloff does mention that this species is probably very close to P. auratus, based on the immature males in alcohol only.

The spider I see most commonly sold here in the U.S. as "P. platus" are almost always P. auratus.

Eric

see i knew i was wrong.
*damn people putting random crap in jars of alcohol and calling them whatever*

but do you think it looks like the us hobby "p. platus" (p. auratus) ?
or another Phormictopus sp?

thanks

moose

 

[maxident213]

Just wanted to say thank you Eric for posting your knowledge of the genus here for us. Phormictopus is my favourite genus and I have animals sold to me under several different names, but the more I look into the taxonomy of the genus, the less certain I am that they are what they are supposed to be. Information like you've provided here is always a valuable find to me. :worship:

I would love to try breeding the various Phormictopus species in the future but it seems like an uncertain venture with all the taxonomical confusion. Thank you again. :clap:

 

[fartkowski]

If not P cancerides, any ideas on what it could be?