Ornithoctoninae sp 'Surigao del Sur' question

[BillsSpider]

I've read they are "Ex mindanao central". I'm assuming generic asian fossorial care, deep moist substrate and don't expect to see them much?

 

[Finikan]

Heres some info to read.

@l4nsky might also be able to weigh in on this.

 

[l4nsky]

I've read they are "Ex mindanao central". I'm assuming generic asian fossorial care, deep moist substrate and don't expect to see them much?

Correct, except add some height as well. These are Asian Arboreals, so they'll benefit from both climbing height and burrowing depth. Generally speaking, if you can keep one Ornithoctoninae sp, then you can keep them all. What I will say about O. sp Surigao del Sur LL is that they get big and they get big fast. Talking to the first US breeder awhile back, he stated that he managed to get one of his females to 8" in a year. The two I raised up both turned out to be male, but both were over 7" DLS when mature.

In regards to the name change, originally there were 3 undescribed Ornithoctoninae sp from the Philippines in the hobby. Those were Mindanao Central, Mindanao South, and Mindanao Oriental. The problem is Mindanao is the largest island in the Philippines and further field expeditions revealed that there are 16 potentially unidentified species on Mindanao (of the 18 potentially unidentified species found so far in the Philippines). The names were changed to more specific locale names to prevent possible hybridization and as much misidentification as possible in the future. Mindanao Central became O. sp Surigao del Sur LL (Lowland), Mindanao Oriental became O. sp Davao Oriental, and Mindanao South became O. sp. South Cotabato LL (Lowland). To the best of my knowledge, none of the other undescribed species have entered the hobby yet, but some pictures are starting to float about online.

For those that are curious about the other undescribed Philippine Ornithoctoninae sp, here's the locale map and names:
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0...ndanaovarieties_1024x1024@2x.jpg?v=1621098263

 

[arthurliuyz]

Care is just like any other Asian arboreal species.

Ornithoctoninae care and info

Relevant genera: Phormingochilus Lampropelma Cyriopagopus Ornithoctonus Cytharognathus This thread will cover the care for all species and genera in the Ornithoctoninae subfamily. These spiders are commonly referred to as “Earth Tigers” due to their burrowing tendencies and striped...

arachnoboards.com

Ornithoctoninae sp. Phan Cay Care

I used the search function and literally NOTHING came up. Does anyone know how to take care of them?

arachnoboards.com

 

[A guy]

Hello! Before moving to Canada, I've spent my whole life in the Philippines and I have essentially started getting into the hobby there. Having said that, I have witnessed everything. I'm not exaggerating when I say that the people in the Philippine hobby are the most misinformed bunch of hobbyist in the world. So unless you've heard the information from actual people who studies these species, please take everything you hear or read with a grain of salt.

Another huge problem is that import and exporting tarantulas is actually illegal, even keeping them is illegal so everything that comes in or comes out of the country is undoubtedly illegal. 98% of the Philippine tarantula hobby is illegal. So imagine people who collect wild caught specimens, if they get caught they'll get thrown into jail so more often than not; the ones who collect them don't actually tell their exact or real location to avoid the law.

One of my close friend's father is an official at the Philippines' DENR(Department of Environment and Natural Resources). We still very much keep in touch and unfortunately, he has told me that it's still the same situation there currently like I've mentioned above.

 

[BillsSpider]

I have an Ornithoctinus aureotibialis, but that one is a bit more fossorial than these I guess. It's a 1 inch sling right now in a 4x6 sling enclosure, next rehouse I'll give it additional height since you mention they are arboreal.

 

[Mike Withrow]

Care is just like any other Asian arboreal species.

Ornithoctoninae care and info

Relevant genera: Phormingochilus Lampropelma Cyriopagopus Ornithoctonus Cytharognathus This thread will cover the care for all species and genera in the Ornithoctoninae subfamily. These spiders are commonly referred to as “Earth Tigers” due to their burrowing tendencies and striped...

arachnoboards.com

Ornithoctoninae sp. Phan Cay Care

I used the search function and literally NOTHING came up. Does anyone know how to take care of them?

arachnoboards.com

I always thought I was sorta alone in keeping loads of Asian old world. Sorta the nut or freak of spider keeping.
I think I love you.
Lol but seriously I'd love to pick your brain,you certainly have my attention on information on keeping them.
This was meant for l4nsky my phone is fixing to take a bounce off this floor.

 

[arthurliuyz]

I always thought I was sorta alone in keeping loads of Asian old world. Sorta the nut or freak of spider keeping.
I think I love you.
Lol but seriously I'd love to pick your brain,you certainly have my attention on information on keeping them.
This was meant for l4nsky my phone is fixing to take a bounce off this floor.

Haha, no worries.
I know this was for @l4nsky but you're definitely not alone here. More than half of my collection are Asian OWs, they're awesome.

 

[l4nsky]

I always thought I was sorta alone in keeping loads of Asian old world. Sorta the nut or freak of spider keeping.
I think I love you.
Lol but seriously I'd love to pick your brain,you certainly have my attention on information on keeping them.
This was meant for l4nsky my phone is fixing to take a bounce off this floor.

Lol there are a few of us Ornithoctoninae fanatics floating about. It's definently a smaller niche of the already small tarantula keeping community though. Their relatively more demanding husbandry, reputation, and even price tend to steer people away in general, but I'm absolutely enamored. Currently, I have 28 specimens representing 10 species in the Ornithoctoninae subfamily, with eyes on acquiring even more. My inbox is open should you have any questions, but I've written rather extensively on the subject here on the boards as well .

 

[arthurliuyz]

price tend to steer people away in general

I'm lucky. Here Ornithoctoniae spp. are cheap as dirt. Can get a mature female Ornithoctoniae sp. "Ho Chi Minh" for around 70 bucks here.

 

[CrazyOrnithoctonineGuy]

To the best of my knowledge, none of the other undescribed species have entered the hobby yet, but some pictures are starting to float about online.

Here in Asia some of the others have very much entered the hobby and are being bred: I personally know a breeder who works with O. sp. "Haribon" and in fact purchased a ~2" DLS juvenile (suspect female) of that species around two and a half months ago from him (she has since molted twice and grown to over 3.5" DLS).

 

[curtisgiganteus]

Asian Ts are the most fun to work with in my opinion. Of the 27 Ts I currently own, 23 of them are Ornithoctoninae. I have yet to find any other Ts as satisfying to keep.