Newbie cannot keep Deathstalker?

Prymal

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Parabuthus-

Now that's one damn nice scorp in anyone's books!

Luc
 

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Barkscorpions said:
Heya Joe,

You know, I could never understand how keeping a potentially dangerous animal makes a person "cool" or "macho"? My first intro to "hot" scorps back in '98 occurred when a guy decided to acquire 4 adult fem P. transvaalicus to be "cool". Needless to say, eventually he called me up and begged me to take 'em off his hands because he was afraid they'd squirt venom in his eyes and blind him! LOL
When I got to his digs, all 4 were dehydrated and near death because he was too afraid to open their containers (they were still crammed into shipping containers) to feed them or give them a bit of water! Very "cool" dude was he! LOL
I can't begin to list homes i've had to find for unwanted rattlers, coppers, etc. from people that wanted to be "cool" then discovered that being this sort of "cool" goes with a big responsibility and sometimes, a potential danger as well.
In my opinion, all scorps have something interesting about them regardless of their ability to kill/not kill their keepers. After all these long years of keeping inverts, I still haven't found any scorp as impressive as a full-grown adult fem emperor!!!

Luc

Hear, hear...
Pandinus imperator is a warrior! Especially one as aggressive as mine!

 

Murziukas

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Guys, you shouldn't take me so serious... Sometimes (most of the time if honnestly) I'm sarcastic... H. Arizonensis is in deed great scorpion and I hope one day I'll have one too as market here is limited. The point was different or at least I thougt so. Ok, I guess it doesn't matter much.
Luc, firearms are firearms and there is no major difference it was Glok or Browning you were shot from. It's a bit easier for me to talk about it as I have more experience than with scorpions (at a moment I have loaded MP-654K .177 cal on my knees as I'm hunting that damn mouse that had great idea to live in my room :mad: ). More than half of my life I handled weapons and I know how to do it. I would prefer Luger if I could choose from. The same was idea about scorpions: there are great ones in all aspects, but somehow not that popular as doesn't have vilain reputation and there are very intresting ones, but somehow unpopular because you hardly can get ten clear images on google (if you got 10, half of them will be in scorpion files). I was complete noob when I got my L. quinquestriatus but 23 years old and I liked it because it was aggressive hunter but I would need to choose from my colection I would leave buthus and tityus as they are much more intresting. Next ones I'm deaming about - veajovids as they are desert ones and comunal, right?
I hope you got my point :)
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plus for the price of one L. Q, you can almost get 3 bark scorpions....and if u get a female, u've definately got a deal ;)
 

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Well being that deathstalkers are the most deadly species of scorps in the world, that right there should answer the question of whether there for begginers or not. Scorpions are pretty easy to manage because they cant climb glass and stuff but even with that said, I still wouldnt reccomend them for begginers. Begginer species would be P. imperator,H. arizonesis,H. troglodytes/pacidens. After successfully keeping any or all of those species then move up to someting more dangerous like B. jacksoni or even C. exilicauda.
 

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Which ever scorpion you decide to go with I believe research is warranted. I would definitely take the advice laid down already, L. quinquestriatus really isn't that exciting. I'd have to add another vote for H. spadix and arizonensis, beautiful scorpions. Though Centruriodes, Tityus and Androctonus are my favorites. Almost all in these genus' represent a great deal of time and responsibility before even considering the purchase.
 

MattM

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L. quinquestriatus really isn't that exciting
I got 4 of them. I only see them when I move the rock under wich they sit 24/7. Leiurus q. has a nice look, but rather "boring" if you want something walking around an enclosure all day :( Nevertheless, I woulnd't get rit of them hehe. Boring, but also very interesting!
 

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well my 2 cents

Well as far as comparing gun responsibility to this particular subject is very close in simularitys but yet very distant.I guess you could compare the gun to the scorp in packing a punch,i suppose the begginers scorps like dh or emp,could be like a .25 or .22,if shot its small but still could be bad just like emp or dh they still could creat some problems for a keeper(allergic)umm if they get lose the publics view is still bad,and L.quin would be the mighty 50cal if you get hit you will deffinatly know it.I suppose i will give the same answer i always give, the perfect begginer anything is the one you can provide for and take responsibility in the case a unfortunate mistake does happen,its all up to the individual and his prefrence and want responsibilty level the want,its hard to explain but make the right decision and do it for the hobby,dont let yourself ruin it for anyone but a costly mistake.These animals can be unforgiving,please please be responsiable and choose the right animal for your situation.
 

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:8o Sorry Murziukas, :8o
Completely misunderstood.
I thought the original poster was saying he always had to have the most dangerous thing he could put his hands own. It just seems like the original question itself is argumentative.

It's like using a blow dryer while you're in the bathtub. No one says it isn't possible to do without injuring yourself, it just isn't recommended. :}
 

Murziukas

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No problem with that ;) During my life I got used to it :D
thesupermonkey said:
:8o Sorry Murziukas, :8o
Completely misunderstood.
I thought the original poster was saying he always had to have the most dangerous thing he could put his hands own. It just seems like the original question itself is argumentative.

It's like using a blow dryer while you're in the bathtub. No one says it isn't possible to do without injuring yourself, it just isn't recommended. :}
 

ReptileMan27

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I wasnt personally going by how entertaining the scorp is but by safety of the person. Deathstalkers are not something that someone with none or very little experience with scorps should consider keeping. Yes there are people that get a Deathstalker with none or very little experience but thats a novice and irresponisble choice.
 

kahoy

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heres the reason

DEATH STALKER

MEANS...

DEATH

IS

YOUR

STALKER
 

Jmadson13

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kahoy said:
DEATH STALKER

MEANS...

DEATH

IS

YOUR

STALKER
A melodramatic name in my opinion, Yes Leirus is the most potent scorpion venom known at this time. Atleast with common sense and vigilant care you don't run too much every day risk of an accident. I still don't recommend them to beginners but I wouldn't recommend an overtly agressive snake, or large guard trained dogs either. I will always err on the side of caution with any scorpion especially from the family Buthidae but I do think this common name is over used.
 

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i have tons of Androctonus spp love em to death but the only times u will see them is at the dead of night im talkin 12:00-1:00 at night, same with my death stalkers, but my C. Exilicauda and C. Vittatus colonys now those are somthing to watch always active always doing somthing, if i were you i would pick one of those 2 and make a nice breeding colony, there never boring, and not 2 hot i mite add, C. Exilicauda might be a little to hot and if not them then the C. Vittatus is right up your alley.;) just thought i would put my 2 cents in.
 

PA7R1CK

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k3v1n said:
Hi there, just want to ask newbie can or cannot keep deathstalker?
Please state out why newbie can or cannot keep them...thankss :)
I was wondering the same thing because I am also young too. I was debating on buying an a. australis but I decided to wait until I have a little bit more experence. The choice is really up too you, but you should consiter that it is dangerous if you are not careful. Now on another note you were talking about how a noobie could or could not keep one. If you are new to scorpions and you want something aggressive you could always go with a desert hairy before you step up to something like a death stalker. A noobie could keep them like anyone else but I think if you had some more experence you would respect the danger of the animal more than you would with no experence. Hope this helps,
Patrick
 

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Jamison,

I agree in regards to the "death stalker" tag being more than a bit overly-melodramatic. I guess it sounds cool like the "deadly" black widow! LOL

Luc
 

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i had a deathstalker not long ago, true, they only come out very early in the morning/late at night. when they are ouut however, they will put on a good show for you, only to run back to their hide and stay put for a few hours. mine was pretty aggresive and often ran around the tank in a threat stance like it was a camel spider or something... i really wouldnt reccomend one for a begginer AT ALL...im young, but im no begginer:embarrassed:
 

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Isn't another common name for L.Q. the five keeled scorpion or something close?
 

ThatGuy

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wow this thread is still going ?:? any who if you want to keep a death stalker there is only one thing you really need and that is...................COMMEN SENCE ! thats all. there really easy to keep just get a med kritter keeper with either sand or rock or a mixture of both really dosent matter make sure he/she got a hide and a good heat sourse and your all set nothing to it. i keep 10 of theys bad boys and no probs at all very amazing animals.
 
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