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Looking great! Glad they're coming along nicely. I'm glad you have some people who are interested in the little guys. I wouldn't have the time, interest, or patience to raise a bunch of little pet rocks either haha. G. pulchripes do grow slowly, but at least some of them are actually active X). Mine digs constantly.
 

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I've got quite a few EWLs. I'm wondering if I should separate them from the ones that haven't developed or may be bad?
 

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When I first read this post I didn't think they were fertile but low and behold you pulled it off good job.
 

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I've got quite a few EWLs. I'm wondering if I should separate them from the ones that haven't developed or may be bad?
That is awesome! I would just leave them alone until they molt to 2nd instar.
 

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I've got quite a few EWLs. I'm wondering if I should separate them from the ones that haven't developed or may be bad?
Congratulations!
They hatched from the egg to what's pictured here currently, correct?
Please do post again (with photos!) when they molt next?
I'm curious to see what they look like after they molt :)
 

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Thanks for the encouragement. I did separate some obvious deflated ones and others that were stuck to each other, brown or undeveloped. I left all but the deflated ones in the incubator but they are no longer touching each other. I will update with more pics of my alien army as they develop.
 

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Seperate them as soon as they turn to EWL I lost around 25 from my recent Avicularia sac due to cannibalism, good job incubating them, and make sure to turn the eggs regularly
 

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I opened the sac on Sept 5th but I don't know know how long it had been around. I now see at least 5 EWLs showing some dark color on their legs. Some of them are way fatter than others, which is interesting. I thought the fatter ones would be developing faster but it doesn't seem to matter. Some EWLs have failed and just 'deflated', some are eggs that I assume weren't fertile and are still creme colored, some eggs have begun to turn brown. This is an interesting process to watch. Occasionally I see them move their legs but mostly they just seem to sit there and do nothing like a rosea normally does...lol.

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I opened the sac on Sept 5th but I don't know know how long it had been around. I now see at least 5 EWLs showing some dark color on their legs. Some of them are way fatter than others, which is interesting. I thought the fatter ones would be developing faster but it doesn't seem to matter. Some EWLs have failed and just 'deflated', some are eggs that I assume weren't fertile and are still creme colored, some eggs have begun to turn brown. This is an interesting process to watch. Occasionally I see them move their legs but mostly they just seem to sit there and do nothing like a rosea normally does...lol.

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Fat ones are the "eaters" deflated will be the "eaten" as I say separate ASAP! Also I thought the larger ones would develop faster, that's definitely not the case though, my last Avic just moulted Into sling stage This afternoon, a full 18 hours behind the rest, I thought it had perished, that was the fattest of the lot! Some do look bigger than others though so its possible the offending parties receive a boost from their sneaky little feasts
 

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Fat ones are the "eaters" deflated will be the "eaten" as I say separate ASAP! Also I thought the larger ones would develop faster, that's definitely not the case though, my last Avic just moulted Into sling stage This afternoon, a full 18 hours behind the rest, I thought it had perished, that was the fattest of the lot! Some do look bigger than others though so its possible the offending parties receive a boost from their sneaky little feasts
I was going to let a bit of natural selection take place. There are about 50 EWLs that have developed. But since last night I have 3 that are, I guess, 1st instar. Either way, they are crawling around. I'm having some guilt over not separating them just yet. It won't last much longer. But what a difference 24hrs makes...wow!
 

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I was going to let a bit of natural selection take place. There are about 50 EWLs that have developed. But since last night I have 3 that are, I guess, 1st instar. Either way, they are crawling around. I'm having some guilt over not separating them just yet. It won't last much longer. But what a difference 24hrs makes...wow!
Very nice!
So, just to make sure, they hatched from eggs into EWLs, and the next molt was the ones we see crawling around above?
 

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Very nice!
So, just to make sure, they hatched from eggs into EWLs, and the next molt was the ones we see crawling around above?
Yep. Lots more darkened legs than the night before as well.
 

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I'm gonna change that. They didn't molt and start crawling around. It looks more like they aren't as fat and so they kind of just tipped over onto their legs and started walking. I guess they are technically still EWLs.
 

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I'm gonna change that. They didn't molt and start crawling around. It looks more like they aren't as fat and so they kind of just tipped over onto their legs and started walking. I guess they are technically still EWLs.
Nope, those are first instars alright. You even see the molt right beside it.
Note the big difference in structure and size between the larger one and the one directly above it.

There was a reason for my asking, and it has mostly to do with instar progression (of tarantulas in general, but particularly with G. rosea), and a certain author's opinion on how it goes.
I won't bog you're thread down with it, but here's a link just in case you want to know what I'm on about: http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/sho...r-2nd-instar&p=2107539&viewfull=1#post2107539

Good luck, hope they make it to 2nd (third? :p) instar!
 

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I'm going to have to re-read all of that, thanks. I'm going to separate a few that are still not mobile and watch what happens. I'm also curious as to why some have darkened legs and some don't.
 

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I'm going to have to re-read all of that, thanks. I'm going to separate a few that are still not mobile and watch what happens. I'm also curious as to why some have darkened legs and some don't.
The ones with darkened legs are farther along development wise. The darkening is the new exoskeleton forming underneath; the darker they are, the closer they are to molting.
 

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Nope, those are first instars alright. You even see the molt right beside it.
Note the big difference in structure and size between the larger one and the one directly above it.

There was a reason for my asking, and it has mostly to do with instar progression (of tarantulas in general, but particularly with G. rosea), and a certain author's opinion on how it goes.
I won't bog you're thread down with it, but here's a link just in case you want to know what I'm on about: http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/sho...r-2nd-instar&p=2107539&viewfull=1#post2107539

Good luck, hope they make it to 2nd (third? :p) instar!
If I'm understanding what Stan is saying and from my observations, the ones roaming around now are 2nd instars and not 1st? I caught one finishing a molt (middle of second pic). You can see some bristles in the photos, sorry for the crappy quality. Also are those the spinnerets showing on the ones with color showing? I separated a few out so I can observe the changes more closely. The process from EWLs to 2nd has been quick. Thanks for the links and the input.

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1st-instar-2.jpg
 
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