My first sac!

[arrowhd]

This is probably a stupid question but, are you talking about pulling the sack from the mother, checking it and then returning it back to her?

 

[Talkenlate04]

I would recommend pulling that sac no earlier than 30 days. At this time the slings should be mobile 2nd stage nymphs and much easier to incubate. If you pull the sac and they are still 1st stage, they are not mobile and cannot reposition themselves easily. This can cause any mold from dead nymphs to spread rapidly to the rest of the brood.
As for death metal, I would recommend against it. I have seen eggsacs get eaten that were definitely viable. I have saved nymphs that were in the process of being eaten, then incubated them to maturity.
She'll be happiest if you leave her alone. You can check every couple days, but as long as you don't see a little white eggsac bolus on the ground, then she hasn't eaten the sac.
Congrats. and good luck.

Dan

I fixed that problem with my incubation setup.
Someone was so confident with the idea they are using it to incubate a Subfusca egg sac and are having great success.
I took a Formosa, Ornata, And Regalis sac at day 10 and they are now all 1st instar with only a few losses and really high sac counts. It was quite cool to watch them grow in the early stages.

This is probably a stupid question but, are you talking about pulling the sack from the mother, checking it and then returning it back to her?

I have done this too. Sometimes if I think something is up with the sac I will take it from the mother, check it with a flashlight, and if I find something bad I incubate the rest of the way, and if not I give it back. I have not ever had a mother reject a viable sac.

 

[dragontears]

As much success as Ryan has had with his breeding, I'm still not going to take him at his word at playing death metal. to be honest, I have banned my husband from playing some of his computer games without ear buds in so he won't disturb the new mother.

I've so far been really good about leaving her alone...regardless of how hard it is. I'll probably candle the sac in the next day or two to see how it is doing and then leave her alone again after that.
I went out and bought all the incubation materials I need for manually incubating the eggs if necessary. I'll keep everyone posted on how the sac develops.

 

[dragontears]

This is probably a stupid question but, are you talking about pulling the sack from the mother, checking it and then returning it back to her?

I've read about people doing that with success, but that is not what I will do. Once I pull the sac, I'm not putting it back in.

 

[DeTwan]

Wow... this thread is much more interesting than the one about pan frying hamsters, I mean really... who pan fries a hamster for god sake?

Congrats on the sac, I know you probably can't sit still... we need pic asap, b/c I can't sit still... and definitely keep us updated!

 

[thedude]

Wow... this thread is much more interesting than the one about pan frying hamsters, I mean really... who pan fries a hamster for god sake?

Congrats on the sac, I know you probably can't sit still... we need pic asap, b/c I can't sit still... and definitely keep us updated!

lmfao!!!! yeah it is better

 

[DeTwan]

I fixed that problem with my incubation setup.
Someone was so confident with the idea they are using it to incubate a Subfusca egg sac and are having great success.



I will be asking for this incubation setup Ryan... that is if I get lucky?!

 

[Talkenlate04]

Dan (Ventura Exotics) has tons and tons more breeding experience then I do. I do things bit different then he does, but he is my superior in the breeding department 10 fold. I just thought I would throw that out there.

 

[funnylori]

Week one... Phew. How's the sac? I'm so anxious for you!

 

[dragontears]

All appears well. She's still holding it, but not in a way that I can candle it currently. Every once in a while she'll change positions in her web so that the sac is right against the glass...next time she does that I'll candle the sac and see if I can see any bad eggs.

 

[desertdweller]

Great thread! I may have my first sac soon but I know I'm getting waaaay ahead of myself here. Congrats and keep up the good work!!:clap: :clap:

 

[dragontears]

I candled the sac last night. The eggs look good so far! :clap:

 

[dragontears]

I pulled the sac last night. I was starting to worry about it since the color was changing and I couldn't determine if this was normal or if the eggs were drying out. (my H. lividum sac dried out to much the same color that I was seeing in the versi sac)

So, with Lori's help, we pulled the sac away from the not so pleased mom and opened the sac....

Here's the mom with the sac:

When we opened the sac we found 146 healthy looking eggs and 19 dead eggs:

I have them incubating and hopefully we'll have a good survival rate to first instar.

Woohoo!

 

[Talkenlate04]

Those eggs look really good! Congrats! Keep us updated!

 

[smof]

Congratulations!

I saw that first pic of the eggs and for an instant all those reflected dots of light looked like pairs of eyes peering out of the eggs, lol.

 

[DJThinK]

You can really tell that that mom loves those eggs. This is such a cool thread.
I'm learning a lot, being a arachnopeon and all. Someday, I hope to know enough to breed. How super exciting. This is went down in Oregon too. Go Oregon! Go us!
-Djthink

 

[Annie3Ponies]

Congratulations!!!!

 

[funnylori]

I hope you aren't too dissapointed that you're missing it...

March 6th:

March 9th early morning:

 

[Corranthe]

Oh! So cute! People who aren't into the hobby would tell me that I'm crazy, but those just-popped babies are adorable. :clap:

 

[dragontears]

ah Drats! I guess that's what I get for leaving town for 4 days. I'm glad I took them to your place so that you could care for them. I can't wait to get them back! :clap: