Male or Female?

[Flow]

O.K. Thanks I see, that this is getting interesting Now, what do you think about these guys...? Male or female?

P. Regalis ~ 3.7 inch LS

P. Rufilata ~ 4.2 inch LS ( I don't have a better pic)

P. Miranda ~ 2.5 inch LS (he's missing one leg )

Thank you for your help!

Rok

 

[Talkenlate04]

The regalis is male for sure. And the other two are male or female.

 

[Flow]

O.K. Thanks... I see, I'll have to wait another few posts, so I can get the result.:}

 

[Talkenlate04]

Results for what? The miranda and rufilata pics are not ones that can be used for sexing. And the regalis is 100% male.

 

[Flow]

Here is another pic of P. Rufilata. I got Regalis as a female! :/

 

[Talkenlate04]

Still no help. Get a ventral picture like the last regalis picture for the miranda and the rufilata and I can sex them.

 

[Flow]

Can someone show me a ventral picture of P. Regalis female? Tnx

 

[Talkenlate04]

Here you go.

 

[Flow]

Then what is this? He is not an adult?!

Rok

 

[Talkenlate04]

Your arrow is too low. My two arrows point to the furrow which on your male is pinched looking and closed off. The three lines I put up top point to a bald patch directly above the furrow that is not present in females. The combination of those two things make it 100% male.

 

[Flow]

Aha :wall: Thank you!!!

Rok

 

[clam1991]

i think its mean to say everyone copied talkenlate no doubt he knows his stuff but i made it my mission to learn how to sex ts ventrically
and the way ive found works best is through the white arc on the males underside that is supposedly the extra organs that he uses to produce webbing for the sperm web
and so far ive been pretty fight on with my guesses thus far

 

[Talkenlate04]

Here is one for you clam M or F?

 

[clam1991]

male i can see the white arc behind the hairs

 

[SpiderLady79]

All these (for lack of a better term) newbs venturing guesses at gender. Sheesh.

Also, as soon as Ryan says female, they all do. :}

Not that I don't agree with him, because I do. But I came to that conclusion by looking at the picture.

Like I said I am new and learning i stated it looked like mine who is a female I don't follow others just so you know

 

[Talkenlate04]

male i can see the white arc behind the hairs

Can you point to this white arch?

 

[clam1991]

you can see through the hairs that their is a white arc
this is what i read from a site i looked up in google
and its been working so am i right or am i right?;P
as for pointing it out i cant really do that

 

[gvfarns]

Bah, all this talk criticizing noobs for sexing errors. Ventral sexing is hard. I'm right about 50% of the time it seems like.

To be fair, though, in this thread I only saw one person vote male. So many people read the questions and discussions forum that you are sure to get people making guesses and votes who have read the howtos and my have had T's for some time but don't have a ton of experience ventrally sexing. I fit in this category. Who besides actual breeders has enough T's to get significant experience with this?

 

[7mary3]

Ventral sexing isn't that tough if you have a good pic to go on and know what to look for. What some folks on here are getting at is that we've got a lot of people that are essentially pretending to know how to sex ventrally. We do have a sticky thread (i believe it's a sticky) on sexing your Ts, both from a molt and from a ventral view. The issue that I thing Xhexdx is bringing up, and that some of us have jumped on is that we'll have a sexing thread, and maybe one or two people will hazard a guess. Then Ryan or spore or someone else with considerable experience will put in their two cents, and suddenly everyone else is an expert as well. I'm not saying that some people don't get to the thread late, Baylee is a good example (I know that she knows her stuff). But we've still got quite a few that seem to piggy back on other people's answers. They're saying male or female without knowing why.

I haven't said anything until now, but Xhexdx isn't the only one who's been noticing this.

 

[gvfarns]

I kind of like the way this thread is going, though. I've read the howtos and stuff and can say what the distinguishing characteristics are, but the practice of ventral sexing is more difficult than that. We need better howtos.

For one thing, many T's people want sexed are pretty juvenile and their sexual characteristics are very subtle. The examples and diagrams in the howtos feature fully mature tarantulas and really clear pictures. If your sexing strategy is "look for characteristic x. If it's present, then male, otherwise female" then looking at juvenile T's, you will always vote female. Vice versa for the female equivalent strategy.

I tried to sex my three inch new river, and my conclusion is that it has no gender (or sex).

I'd like to see a good thread with a bunch of pictures of T's of varying ages (perhaps focusing on the younger T's) and colors and then like we have here real clear descriptions of how they were sexed by the experts (you know who you are). It could be sticky.

I think we need it. And it would decrease the number of false sexing attempts present on the site.