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Hello, All

I currently reside in Pataskala, OH. I have been reading very intensely on the Jumping Spiders, as they are absolutely the cutest! I was hoping to find a local breeder in Ohio that i may procure one from, and maybe learn a few things if at all possible.

I am looking to procure either a Hyllus Giganteus, or a P. Regieus as i am new to the hobby and understand that the jumping spider family is pretty robust as well as sturdy.

I currently have a 8"x8"x12" enclosure with a juniper bonsai and some pillow moss for aesthetics. I was wondering if this enclosure would be safe for the soon to be member of the family. I am looking to add some cork bark and a little hide glued higher up in the enclosure.
If anyone has any feedback on this please let me know! i dont want my first endeavor to hurt the new guy/gal if at all avoidable.

Thanks Again!
 
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Nostrome said:
Hello, All

I currently reside in Pataskala, OH. I have been reading very intensely on the Jumping Spiders, as they are absolutely the cutest! I was hoping to find a local breeder in Ohio that i may procure one from, and maybe learn a few things if at all possible.

I am looking to procure either a Hyllus Giganteus, or a P. Regieus as i am new to the hobby and understand that the jumping spider family is pretty robust as well as sturdy.

I currently have a 8"x8"x12" enclosure with a juniper bonsai and some pillow moss for aesthetics. I was wondering if this enclosure would be safe for the soon to be member of the family. I am looking to add some cork bark and a little hide glued higher up in the enclosure.
If anyone has any feedback on this please let me know! i dont want my first endeavor to hurt the new guy/gal if at all avoidable.

Thanks Again!
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Just make sure you see your new little pet catch/kill prey. Crickets will happily hide. It isn't hard to do though as jumpers are active predators and if hungry will capture prey that can't get away.
 
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Thank you for replying so quick Basin79!

I will most definitely be an avid watcher of how my new addition acts, as they are supposed to have very strong "personalities".
I however am unsure as to where i can get one. I have read some good things about "Ken the Bug Guy", but am unsure if thats the place i should be ordering from, as he has a limited inventory (p. regius, if memory serves).

Also, any advice or feedback on what i have in the terrarium would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you again!
 
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Nostrome said:
I however am unsure as to where i can get one. I have read some good things about "Ken the Bug Guy", but am unsure if thats the place i should be ordering from, as he has a limited inventory (p. regius, if memory serves).

Also, any advice or feedback on what i have in the terrarium would be greatly appreciated.
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would a Jumping spider (P.Regius) be able to handle a "Brown marmorated stink bug"? as far as food goes?
 
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Thank you so much for the info and feedback everyone! ill be posting a picture of the set up here shortly! i have it almost completed! and my p. regius has been ordered, though the order has not yet been fulfilled yet, and its been four days now. I wonder if the hold up might be the weather?

I hope to provide a good home for the little lady! also, i went with flightless fruit fly cultures as a food staple for the new addition!

As, always i sincerely appreciate any knowledge and insight anyone would be willing to share with

CJJon said:
Collect your own for free!

https://spidersinohio.net/jumping-spiders/

There are 79 species to choose from in Ohio.
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As i have just read a few articles about the decline of insects in the wild i wanted to try to stay away from procuring a wild spider vs. captive bred spiders.
do you think this is a wise choice, as i am currently sourcing from a vendor located in new mexico / Nevada area?
 
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Nostrome said:
As i have just read a few articles about the decline of insects in the wild i wanted to try to stay away from procuring a wild spider vs. captive bred spiders.
do you think this is a wise choice, as i am currently sourcing from a vendor located in new mexico / Nevada area?
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Pffft. The carbon produced to get you your NM/NV spider will do more damage to insects than your collecting a few spiders from Ohio that are not endangered or threatened. Just sayin...
 
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SonsofArachne said:
Sorta agree, but not buying that spider won't stop the trucks/planes that willed be used to get it to the op, so I guess it's all even?
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I'm not sure what you are getting at.

To be clear...collecting a native spider that is in no way endangered or threatened will have an infinitesimally small effect on the world insect biomass, or on the Ohio Salticidae genera in particular.
 
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CJJon said:
I'm not sure what you are getting at.

To be clear...collecting a native spider that is in no way endangered or threatened will have an infinitesimally small effect on the world insect biomass, or on the Ohio Salticidae genera in particular.
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And I'm saying buying a captive bred spider and having it shipped won't increase the amount of carbon as the trucks/planes used to ship it will still make those runs irregardless. So neither option is really bad for the environment.
 
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SonsofArachne said:
And I'm saying buying a captive bred spider and having it shipped won't increase the amount of carbon as the trucks/planes used to ship it will still make those runs irregardless. So neither option is really bad for the environment.
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Well, sure...it is a very small contribution to carbon-based pollution, but it isn't zero. The package has weight and it does take fuel to transport it for 1500 miles. It would indeed increase the amount and that amount could easily be calculated.
 
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CJJon said:
The package has weight and it does take fuel to transport it for 1500 miles. It would indeed increase the amount and that amount could easily be calculated.
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Assuming you are shipping FedEx and that route is being flown by a 767, then during that route about 1000 gallons of fuel is being burned an hour. Jet fuel weighs 6.8 pounds a gallon, meaning the fuel burn is going to be about 147 gallons an hour, we'll round up to 150 for ease. The 767 cruises at just over 500 MPH, so a 1500 mile flight would take around 3 hours. 3 hours of flight at 150 gallons an hour equals 450 gallons of Jet fuel burned. The 767 has a max payload of 16,200 pound (of cargo, not including fuel). Now assuming the plane is fully loaded we divide the weight by the total fuel burned, which gives us .027 gallons of fuel burned per pound of cargo. A box with a handful of jumping spiders shouldn't weight more than 2 pounds, so shipping them via FedEx over 1500 miles would mean you burned about half a gallon of fuel. A drop in the ocean.
 
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Not sure if you will find Hyllus giganteus in the states anytime soon. I've been searching forever as well. Phidippus regius get to a nice size and are awesome starters. I find that 32oz deli cups with drilled air holes works perfectly for jumpers. It is a very affordable option. There is a con to that enclosure though. Jumpers web up to the top of the enclosure. Daily maintenance, feeding, or watering can destroy the web system. With enough finesse, you can actually prevent tearing the web. It just takes practice.
 
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