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If you use an account like ReptilesExpress or ShipYourReptiles, that seems to meet their desire for "business to business" shipping in proper packaging, from the few discussions I have had with FedEx workers.
A lot of roach vendors ship USPS when they should be considered "pest animals".They REALLY don't follow their own rules, from what I can tell.
I ended up here after going through a mudslinging contest thread about phasmids that was downright ridiculous and full of misinformation posted by people who know nothing because they are not in that hobby. Juxtaposed to the tone in this thread, It's amazing how personal bias can effect peoples judgment. Part of the problem is that people who are not into a hobby, no matter what it is could care less what draconian laws and regulations are created against those hobbyists. Just because some arachnids are dangerous in some areas under certain conditions, that doesn't justify making blanket bans at all. Just the same, because a single phasmid species from a coastal climate in India got away and invaded a small part of CA with a similar coastal climate, that doesn't justify banning phasmids such as those from the neotropical rainforests that pose zero risk in most of North America. I envy those who live in EU. They have been enjoying far more freedom in these hobbies than Americans for hundreds of years without any major issues in spite of the fact that they have similar climate range to the US. If our society doesn't wake up soon and realize that to be and let be is the only path to retaining our freedoms, things are only going to get worse from here on out and many hobbies like this one will vanish for good along with all our other freedoms.I am really glad to find this post, started well after I was not active in the hobby any longer, so I really was not aware that the laws had changed so much... or possibly they were always this severe and I just did not realize it.
Another misconception. Most of the popular roach species used as feeders are popular because of the fact that they do not pose the problems German cockroaches pose if they escape, which is why Florida is finally starting to ease up on the restrictions for some of these species. Also. ironically, most pests are spread around the country via USDA certified produce and plant shipments, not hobbyists. Tons of produce cross the Mexican border every day carrying all sorts of interesting bugs from central and south America up with them.A lot of roach vendors ship USPS when they should be considered "pest animals".
Or hornworms even - tomato worms.
All anyone can say is ship red overnight from a reputable sourceIronically, some millipedes secrete (fairly mild) cyanide, so they would actually be poisonous.
They REALLY don't follow their own rules, from what I can tell.
That is EXACTLY % what I was thinking, and was going to say LOL, excellent loophole!Yeah, and the post orifice says "poisonous", not venomous. Isn't that a loophole? Heehee