Keeping super worms alive past feeding?

aprilmayjunebugs

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Can feeding a super worm beetle damage a large Ts fangs ?? Caught it during a rehouse. Hid right under the spiders bark. Unnoticed spider didn’t even sense it probably? View attachment 447518 View attachment 447519 View attachment 447520
I haven't fed superworm beetles because I've only once ever tried to use supers, I took one go at crushing it's face parts and said not for me. But my LP, mature male now and not even that big, has eaten large hissers many times. I don't think it will hurt it, can't say if it'll eat it.
 

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I haven't fed superworm beetles because I've only once ever tried to use supers, I took one go at crushing it's face parts and said not for me. But my LP, mature male now and not even that big, has eaten large hissers many times. I don't think it will hurt it, can't say if it'll eat it.
yeah the spider will probably crush it instantly if it’s hungry ..
Do hissers breed and grow fast enough for a small collection? I’ll probably wait and see how the orange and dubia do before adding more . It’s the pain of adding more heat mats that sucks . Can’t get stuff to breed room temperature 70-74. Need to find ones that breed room temp.
 

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yeah the spider will probably crush it instantly if it’s hungry ..
Do hissers breed and grow fast enough for a small collection? I’ll probably wait and see how the orange and dubia do before adding more . It’s the pain of adding more heat mats that sucks . Can’t get stuff to breed room temperature 70-74. Need to find ones that breed room temp.
I don't have much to compare growth rate to, but in the few years I had them I traded some twice, sold some twice, and gave some away at one point, so yeah they definitely reproduced. We started with 2 pairs, in early 2018. They were in a ten gallon glass tank with 2 heat pads, one on the bottom, one on the side. That tank also fit perfectly into a little wooden nightstand, so that probably helped with the heat.
 

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I don't have much to compare growth rate to, but in the few years I had them I traded some twice, sold some twice, and gave some away at one point, so yeah they definitely reproduced. We started with 2 pairs, in early 2018. They were in a ten gallon glass tank with 2 heat pads, one on the bottom, one on the side. That tank also fit perfectly into a little wooden nightstand, so that probably helped with the heat.
Hmm maybe I’ll get some someday , if I have more spiders then I do now or if I ever get another t stirmi (rip af who had a cyst.). I got no clue how my current colony’s populations will grow so until one fails two is probable fine. Only got 11 Ts and at-least one looks male .. so number just keeps going down. Need a better molt next time .. it disintegrated.
 

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I am just now selling out of my super worms. They multiply like rabbits. Go to the dollar store and get some small containers. anything 1" by 1" is fine. they have all types there. I use different
containers and lately they are getting to much and too many. Do not mist your worms. Use potato slices or lettuce. If super worms get wet they die, so you have to judge how much lettuce you give them. They like wheat bread, you can give them that each day with the lettuce. Whatever they don't eat in the bread, you can crumble with your hand and they can eat that. Take out any wet items and replace. Take care of them right & they will grow and thrive and be nutritious for what you feed them too. Also great for fishing bait. I started with a handful about 8 mts ago & i am overloaded with them now. I sold some to a guy in a 32 oz cup last week and took that many to my son for his chickens, and it didn't help because I need to get rid of more. So I am selling out of all worms as they take to much of my time when you have this many. ps, the super worms are in a 2'5 foot by 2' containers. The bottom container, not shown is where the babies fall thru and live by their selves. So looking at the picture with the worms, they are almost 2" deep in there, plus I have them in another container across the room.
 

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I am just now selling out of my super worms. They multiply like rabbits. Go to the dollar store and get some small containers. anything 1" by 1" is fine. they have all types there. I use different
containers and lately they are getting to much and too many. Do not mist your worms. Use potato slices or lettuce. If super worms get wet they die, so you have to judge how much lettuce you give them. They like wheat bread, you can give them that each day with the lettuce. Whatever they don't eat in the bread, you can crumble with your hand and they can eat that. Take out any wet items and replace. Take care of them right & they will grow and thrive and be nutritious for what you feed them too. Also great for fishing bait. I started with a handful about 8 mts ago & i am overloaded with them now. I sold some to a guy in a 32 oz cup last week and took that many to my son for his chickens, and it didn't help because I need to get rid of more. So I am selling out of all worms as they take to much of my time when you have this many. ps, the super worms are in a 2'5 foot by 2' containers. The bottom container, not shown is where the babies fall thru and live by their selves. So looking at the picture with the worms, they are almost 2" deep in there, plus I have them in another container across the room.
Dang that’s a lot of work separating the worms 🐛, but awesome method of doing so. I Didn’t know how people did it , flukers or whoever supplies these pet stores must have an immense operation going of these bugs . I buy 50 I get 25 it seems or certainly not anywhere near 50. :banghead:
 

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I got more supers , I’m making sure to feed them apple slices prior to feeding any off this time. How many days should I wait feed any them off?
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How long does it take for a worm to become a beetle? I had an escape trying to feed one off again . I didn’t try crushing its head because this spider rarely refused them .
 

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Usually 2-3 weeks to convert to pupae and another 2 weeks to metamorphose.

I crush mealworm heads before I feed, it reduces the chance the worm can bite back or burrow away, and they still squirm about for a few minutes once decapitated so can still provoke a feeding response.
 

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Usually 2-3 weeks to convert to pupae and another 2 weeks to metamorphose.

I crush mealworm heads before I feed, it reduces the chance the worm can bite back or burrow away, and they still squirm about for a few minutes once decapitated so can still provoke a feeding response.
Yeah no chance the spider molts before that but I’ll keep an eye on it see if it goes premolt . Thanks :D
 

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I keep them in the same ventilated container with the bran they come in and in the fridge. They last long.
 

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I keep them in the same ventilated container with the bran they come in and in the fridge. They last long.
Hmm 🤔 they must be giant Meal worms then???
the bran is starting to smell bad , should I just replace it with oats or you think there then ? It’s not stale yet I don’t think weird ..
Usually 2-3 weeks to convert to pupae and another 2 weeks to metamorphose.

I crush mealworm heads before I feed, it reduces the chance the worm can bite back or burrow away, and they still squirm about for a few minutes once decapitated so can still provoke a feeding response.
yeah great bad news the spider is now refusing food that the super escaped in .. so if it gets darker or goes premolt I got another painstaking rehouse coming .. it may just not be hungry atm 🏧.. it just ate a few days ago.
 

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Remove either the worm or the T before the T goes into molt. You do not want to rehouse during or immediately after a molt.

The worms don't tend to go far. They usually burrow straight down from where you saw them last.
 

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Remove either the worm or the T before the T goes into molt. You do not want to rehouse during or immediately after a molt.

The worms don't tend to go far. They usually burrow straight down from where you saw them last.
Hmm I hadn’t thought about moving the cage see if I can see a burrowed worm anywhere .. if that fails I got a tank I had ready almost 😅 I can use that once it’s finished ✅.
 

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Remove either the worm or the T before the T goes into molt. You do not want to rehouse during or immediately after a molt.

The worms don't tend to go far. They usually burrow straight down from where you saw them last.
Couldn’t find the worm either it got eaten or is in the middle of the tank , any tips on drawing the worm out or something? Prob a few months til the t molts , no darkened abdomen yet. IMG_2962.jpeg
 

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IME once these things burrow you never see them again unless you forcibly find and dig them out. They're designed to spend most of their lives underground. Depending on the species, it may finish pupating and emerge before the month is over, or right around there.

I wouldn't risk it. Either find it or rehome the T now, and next time crush the heads lol.
 

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IME once these things burrow you never see them again unless you forcibly find and dig them out. They're designed to spend most of their lives underground. Depending on the species, it may finish pupating and emerge before the month is over, or right around there.

I wouldn't risk it. Either find it or rehome the T now, and next time crush the heads lol.
Yeah I got extra cages/containers plenty of them. I just don’t like crushing them , weird I had no problems chopping up dubia or meal worms .. whats best way to cRush them??
These dang roaches take forever to start colony’s of wish I had bought more .
 

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I hold them down and cut off their heads with a knife. With smaller crickets I just pull their heads off with tweezers. How else do you kill something quickly and with minimal pain?

I used to just crush the heads with my tongs, but I bent one squeezing too hard once and pinched my finger so that's out.

You can lay them flat and smash the head with a rock? I have a buddy who precisely crushes the heads with the end of a chopstick.

I'm curious what your murder style is.
 

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I hold them down and cut off their heads with a knife. With smaller crickets I just pull their heads off with tweezers. How else do you kill something quickly and with minimal pain?

I used to just crush the heads with my tongs, but I bent one squeezing too hard once and pinched my finger so that's out.

You can lay them flat and smash the head with a rock? I have a buddy who precisely crushes the heads with the end of a chopstick.

I'm curious what your murder style is.
Probably closer to the rock method , or a knife for mealworms . Wow chopsticks 🥢 that’s awesome 👏!!!
Does bran spoil or not ? Can supers live in instant oats instead ? No clue why it smells ..
 
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