Species Hysterocrates hercules

[jigalojey]

Very nice if it's the real deal, that is a massive carapace, will be keeping an eye on this thread.

 

[advan]

Keep waiting............I hope you aren't paying a premium price for the 'hercules' name.

 

[-=}GA']['OR{=-]

That is a nice specimen of hysterocrates. I remember years ago there was talk of synonymizing H. hercules with H. gigas? Anyone remember this?

 

[Philth]

Pic of a Hysterocrates sp Hercules I will be getting soon been wanting one for 20 years have bought many that were not but this baby came right out of Nigeria

This line is kind of funny actually, your getting the real one but its labeled Hysterocrates sp. Hercules lol. Anyways the last person I saw that claimed they were getting the real hercules from Nigeria, ended up getting spiders that looked more like Phoneyusa then Hysterocrates all together. They were still cool spiders, but as Chad mentioned, hopefully you didn't pay big bucks for the name "hercules".

Later, Tom

 

[-=}GA']['OR{=-]

This line is kind of funny actually, your getting the real one but its labeled Hysterocrates sp. Hercules lol. Anyways the last person I saw that claimed they were getting the real hercules from Nigeria, ended up getting spiders that looked more like Phoneyusa then Hysterocrates all together. They were still cool spiders, but as Chad mentioned, hopefully you didn't pay big bucks for the name "hercules".

Later, Tom

I wish I still had my Phoneyusa's. They were really cool IMO. They were stocky tank like eating machines. I think I bought them as Phoneyusa rufa?

 

[Philth]

I wish I still had my Phoneyusa's. They were really cool IMO. They were stocky tank like eating machines. I think I bought them as Phoneyusa rufa?

That's pretty cool, I don't remember those. I don't suppose you have pics of them ?

Later, Tom

 

[-=}GA']['OR{=-]

That's pretty cool, I don't remember those. I don't suppose you have pics of them ?

Later, Tom

Unfortunately I don't have any pics of them. I have a bad habit of not taking pictures. I looked back in my notes...they were just labeled Phoneyusa sp. I really liked them. They were similar to hysterocrates, but they had shorter uniform sized legs and were noticeably heavier bodied. They had much rounder abdomens as compared to the ovoid shape of hysterocrates. They seemed to max out in the 5-6" range. Cool and unusual spiders.

 

[Poec54]

Unfortunately I don't have any pics of them. I have a bad habit of not taking pictures. I looked back in my notes...they were just labeled Phoneyusa sp. I really liked them. They were similar to hysterocrates, but they had shorter uniform sized legs and were noticeably heavier bodied. They had much rounder abdomens as compared to the ovoid shape of hysterocrates. They seemed to max out in the 5-6" range. Cool and unusual spiders.

I've seen references to Phoneyusa manicata being imported as w/c's about 15 years ago, but I never heard about it at the time. We REALLY need some Phoneyusa species in the US, and some of those other rare Africans.

 

[-=}GA']['OR{=-]

I've seen references to Phoneyusa manicata being imported as w/c's about 15 years ago, but I never heard about it at the time. We REALLY need some Phoneyusa species in the US, and some of those other rare Africans.

I agree...they are interesting spiders. The ones I had were C.B. They did really well. I like obscure spiders that most are not interested in. There are so many species that fly under the radar.

 

[ASAP TARANTULA]

Just wondering, does Phoneyusa sp burrow like the Hysterocrates?

 

[-=}GA']['OR{=-]

Just wondering, does Phoneyusa sp burrow like the Hysterocrates?

Yeah.... they were avid burrowers.

 

[eldondominicano]

The most definitive way by what I have read to identify Hysterocates species is by female genitalia differentiation.

 

[Venom1080]

@wolfs79 got a half decent pic. vagans is still kicking so ill update this thread with better pics when he passes.

 

[EDED]

hey venom

not wolf obviously

but that looks like crassipes
whatever it is definitely not hercules.

hercules and laticeps get confused because they both have thin leg IV at all stage of the lives.

gigas and crassipes have swollen tibia, crassipes has more pronounced tibia looking like a football shaped

and gigas also have swollen tibia but also thicker tarsi, metatarsi,,,as gigas get older the leg IVs become uniformly thick no 'swole'

also laticeps /hercules confusion also comes from very round carapace shape that laticeps will sport at certain stage, or as it gets older, I wouldnt call it maturity point because younger animals still mated

 

[Venom1080]

hey venom

not wolf obviously

but that looks like crassipes
whatever it is definitely not hercules.

hercules and laticeps get confused because they both have thin leg IV at all stage of the lives.

gigas and crassipes have swollen tibia, crassipes has more pronounced tibia looking like a football shaped

and gigas also have swollen tibia but also thicker tarsi, metatarsi,,,as gigas get older the leg IVs become uniformly thick no 'swole'

also laticeps /hercules confusion also comes from very round carapace shape that laticeps will sport at certain stage, or as it gets older, I wouldnt call it maturity point because younger animals still mated

hey thanks. i just wanted a big hysteocrates, if its a hercules, all the better. i got it at 1" for $35, so i didnt get ripped off.

 

[EDED]

Haha
I love the genus regardless if it's properly id"d or not.

ID is necessary if you want to breed and keep it pure

Cool spiders for sure. They love to dig.
Out and about, always hungry.
Not a pet hole at all.
Kinda like an ant farm but only one giant ant digging haha

 

[Venom1080]

if anyone has suggestions on what my Hysteocrates is, theres a pic on my instagram which is linked in my signature, its near the bottom. the pics from my old phone else i would of put it on here.

pics a few weeks to a month or so old. the spiders about 4" in the pic.

 

[wolfs79]

Just got this 4" female Hysterocrates sp hercules in today from Germany we all know that no-one can say they have a true hercules she does have some striking colors though very dark almost black with a grayish sheen strange it's not gigas or crassipes or laticeps could be a hybred since the genus is such a mess.

 

[Venom1080]

Very nice spider. Hysteocrates is quickly becoming one of my favorite genera.

 

[Charlie69]

Congratulations, you have an amazing t. When I bought mine, I didn't expect to see it much but it comes up and get the food almost every time I feed. And they grow like crazy. ) this is my baby H hercules.